Annual Saving? Show me the money!

[Erik Sine]

Or a 2009 Prius against my 1975 Chrysler station wagon with a 440 engine and a 4 barrel carburetor. You could watch the gas gauge move lower.

I'll give my tidbit comparison

For older Neon signs, a 1957 Chevy. A gas gusler, but a classic (Something Tod Swormstedt is eager to collect and something his magazine articles are helping to create). Not very expensive to maintenance or fix, a 10 year old can do it and learn. These cars are still driven around to this day and are highly valued collectors items.

Newer neon systems using Tri or RE Phosphor & Electronic transformers.

Toyota Tundra or Honda civic. Both maintenance free and you can expect they will be around for a long, long time. Gas mileage you can expect 36 in the city or 44 on the freeway, not as efficient as the their hybrid brother and sisters but a lot more efficient than their predecessor older American cars. You can expect these to be just as valuable when it comes time to resale value. When it comes to maintenance and repair you can expect a lower cost, these cars will run forever.

Of course we probably pay more for gas these days in a couple of weeks than we do for electricity in a year.

In the real large realistic scheme of things, clients aren't paying a whole lot for the use of their signs annually.

[thomaserb]

I'll give my tidbit comparison

For older Neon signs, a 1957 Chevy. A gas gusler, but a classic (Something Tod Swormstedt is eager to collect and something his magazine articles are helping to create). Not very expensive to maintenance or fix, a 10 year old can do it and learn. These cars are still driven around to this day and are highly valued collectors items.

Newer neon systems using Tri or RE Phosphor & Electronic transformers.

Toyota Tundra or Honda civic. Both maintenance free and you can expect they will be around for a long, long time. Gas mileage you can expect 36 in the city or 44 on the freeway, not as efficient as the their hybrid brother and sisters but a lot more efficient than their predecessor older American cars. You can expect these to be just as valuable when it comes time to resale value. When it comes to maintenance and repair you can expect a lower cost, these cars will run forever.

Of course we probably pay more for gas these days in a couple of weeks than we do for electricity in a year.

In the real large realistic scheme of things, clients aren't paying a whole lot for the use of their signs annually.

and the problem with current LED systems is, they are not going to be around in the current packaging.

So what happens in 10 years, or 1.5 years (if the LED are running at 100C) the owners are going to be pissed.

I saw the same thing happen with fiberoptics, the fibers worked great but the illuminators stunk (lamp life 2,500hours) and sometimes the replacement lamps not available. It has reached a point where most owners won't touch the product.

Photograph attached of a clock we made and still make, orginally installed on the outside of our shop approximately 1950 - circular neon tube core/coil transformer. Same transformer, same glass tube - it was regassed in 1980. 59 years is not a bad life at all.

http://www.electrictime.com/tower_clocks/6...ush_edgelighted

[Erik Sine]

In my comparison above I deleted my analogy of Daewoo

[Alfredo Angel]

This Holiday Inn sign is in Latin America... and is not GE Tetra..... is PERMLIGHT.... (already installed like that in Argentina, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Ecuador...)

[manuellynch]

This Holiday Inn sign is in Latin America... and is not GE Tetra..... is PERMLIGHT.... (already installed like that in Argentina, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Ecuador...)

Is that the El Plato system? Good to see them winning something. I am still an investor in Permlight and would love to see them do better.