More UL fees???

[Erik Sine]

Also kinda like years back when some would would say, "Can you get me a xerox copy of that?"

There are a couple of MET members here, maybe they will chime in. There is a bigger initial upfront cost going to MET, but you will save about a grand annually rather than staying with UL

[garettc]

As a wholesaler I have not applied fora sign permit for about 10 years. Last time I had to endure that I swore if I ever had to come back to that place there would be an Uzi in my briefcase!

Kidding, of course, but that's how I felt.

If I were in retail signage once again, I think I would do anything and everything to make my signs exempt from UL regs. Since it's been some time, can some of you pros help out with the list? by memory,...

-transformers under 3kV to ground are exempt

-transformers under 15mA are exempt

Could you be exempt with a 15kV, 15mA transformer?

I guess industry is trying to get a long with UL, but it seems to me that the small sign shop would be better off paying for more numerous, smaller transformers.

The smaller secondary current could be worked around with smaller diameter tubing. which is also cheaper and easier to bend....

What say you all?

Garett

[renagade bender]

Could it be a kawinkidink that UL is located in Chicago, ya know the city our pres. is from. I know thats not fair to compare, my taxes havent gone up that much to pay for all the corrupt companies that got bailed out on our money.

Why would UL approve a cathode housing that does not meet the minimum arc test????? Maybe someone is on the board ????

Why even use UL. It seems every product is listed anyway. I once had a UL guy ask about the glass I was bending.

To another post . The inspectors should supply thier own calibration tools like the certified weight for pull tests, Oh yeah the only place you can get an approved one is from a city called Chicago

Where was the certified gauge tester made???

There should be a tax rebate for having a UL sticker.

[innovative]

Started with the manufacturers in my opinion as they all wanted an edge over the other guy. What does UL approval on a glass tube support mean when the part hasn't changed in 50 years. The industry needs to tell UL to get lost and start using folks like MET, etc. Technically UL must recognize these marks and can't do anything to anyone using them but they will make life rough for a time. I believe Phillips Electronics told UL to get lost a long time ago and they won't use them ever as far as i know. UL is crushing everyone and they have to be stopped.