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Snoochie

A sore subject

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Erick;

Have you or are you anticipating letting Signtiffic back on the Sign Syndicate ? The place was way more lively with his presence. I know many will disagree but it is just my humble opinion.

Dominic


"Don't be afraid to see what you see" - President Ronald Reagan

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Erick;

Have you or are you anticipating letting Signtiffic back on the Sign Syndicate ? The place was way more lively with his presence. I know many will disagree but it is just my humble opinion.

Dominic

Why is he not allowed on Sign Syndicate any longer?

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I forgot to add one thing. I received a solicitation to bid on some work by a national service provider today for some work required. I will leave the party nameless except to say that they have been the subject of some heated debate on this board.

They not only specified exactly what they would pay in the way of travel charges (Extremely Low - basically ridiculous), what they would pay per unit of product changed (Again, Extremely Low - basically ridiculous) and how long and how much they would pay for labor (Again and again, Extremely Low - basically ridiculous). The customer they had signed up was a fairly major chain that is nationwide. I am taken back with what I read but wondered if they got a good price and were basically trying to maximize profits or did they bid it so low that they have to resort to broadsiding any contractor who would be foolish enough to accept the terms. The E Mail is confidential so I will respect their wishes to not share it on this venue but can assure you I won't be doing the jobs.

Is this where our industry is headed???

Dominic


"Don't be afraid to see what you see" - President Ronald Reagan

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Erick;

Have you or are you anticipating letting Signtiffic back on the Sign Syndicate ? The place was way more lively with his presence. I know many will disagree but it is just my humble opinion.

Dominic

That's up to him, I only banned him for a week with a second chance.

Erick;

Have you or are you anticipating letting Signtiffic back on the Sign Syndicate ? The place was way more lively with his presence. I know many will disagree but it is just my humble opinion.

Dominic

Why is he not allowed on Sign Syndicate any longer?


You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

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Erick;

Have you or are you anticipating letting Signtiffic back on the Sign Syndicate ? The place was way more lively with his presence. I know many will disagree but it is just my humble opinion.

Dominic

That's up to him, I only banned him for a week with a second chance.

Erick;

Have you or are you anticipating letting Signtiffic back on the Sign Syndicate ? The place was way more lively with his presence. I know many will disagree but it is just my humble opinion.

Dominic

Why is he not allowed on Sign Syndicate any longer?

Erick;

Fair enough! I didn't know what the circumstnaces were.

Dominic


"Don't be afraid to see what you see" - President Ronald Reagan

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It sounds like a competative bid for relamping or a maintenance contract for a franchise was awarded to a consultant and they are just trying to take their peice of the pie on all phases of the project.

For that individual, wouldn't it be wiser to eat the travel costs and invest a large percentage of the travel stipen into local people to bump up the labor allowance and still make out.

...unless all or a large percentage of the intial costs are out of pocket and there is a fear of reniging from the company they are trying to minamize expeses in the overall picture.

Just my .03


GOOD things happen for a reason......

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It sounds like a competative bid for relamping or a maintenance contract for a franchise was awarded to a consultant and they are just trying to take their peice of the pie on all phases of the project.

For that individual, wouldn't it be wiser to eat the travel costs and invest a large percentage of the travel stipen into local people to bump up the labor allowance and still make out.

...unless all or a large percentage of the intial costs are out of pocket and there is a fear of reniging from the company they are trying to minamize expeses in the overall picture.

Just my .03

Thanks for the input! I have to say that the bid package is for locations in my immediate service area but the travel,unit part cost and service time don't fit into the real world. Even though I am very familiar with the stores themselves, the prices thay would require me to adhere to would not allow me to make a red cent on the job. I declined but am wondering if someone out there will accept the job? Any contractor who is insured and licensed with employees would be in the same boat. Hell, if I did the work myself I still would turn 2 pennies on the dollar. if that. I have worked at the subject chain in the past through (2) different nationals so I was wondering if the current guys are just greedy or they negotiated a price that will most assuredly paint themselves into a corner. In the end, everybody is going to be at odds because the work can't be done at the stated price.

It just seems this whole National thing is headed towards the toilet. Back in the day, most large corporations had maintenance or engineering departments that handled these sorts of projects. Now, for the luxury of having the centralized, outsourced telephone number, the final product quality is going out the window. But outsourcing everything seems to be the new paradigm. Heck, I get some service calls for one account from a centralized dispatch center in India. You can barely understand what the person on the other end is trying to tell you let alone get any detailed information as to what is the nature of the service call. OH well, welcome to the brave new world.

Dominic


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bla bla bla.... and yes most nationals are fecal matter when it comes to "delivering"........ I'm too busy lately to post. go a head and ban me again because I'll eventually tell you like it is.... again.... and you won't like it..... again....

:wave-finger:

Socialism: You have 2 cows; give one to your neighbor

Communism: You have 2 cows; government takes both and gives you the milk

Fascism: You have 2 cows; government takes both and sells you the milk

Nazism: You have 2 cows; the government takes both and shoots you

Bureaucracy: You have 2 cows; the government takes both, shoots one, milks the other and throws away the milk

Capitalism: You have 2 cows; u sell one and buy a bull

Posers, panties, and politics.... plentiful in the national service market.

Before anyone goes and tells me this is off topic, unrelated to such, or I'm not making any sense.... save it. I'm not concerned with your opinion. Boneheads...

Is the following or preceding inflamatory, condensending, or spelled correctly? Who cares?

Here's a prediction..... 4 of the 7 largest sign companies will fail or go bankrupt in the next 18 months. National service will be turned over to plumbers. The syndicatians will bitch and complain about it and wrongfully bash the first person with a functioning solution because it requires real work by their lazy asses. (Something way too many here are scared of....work and the truth) Chubbs will unsuccessfully try to sell his body for sex to try to find me and clear up that rumor on the other site I smacked him in vegas in front of his man....errr... I mean girl. (You're still a hack Chubbs and that's not me) Bread lines will not be part of the next depression..... no one gives a shit about anyone except themselves. Most "leaders" in our industry are mislead by whispers from the peanut gallery and lack true vision. Retail facility leaders are stuck between a rock and a hardplace and unable to "hire" or source quality service contractors at a fair price because there are hundreds of unlicensed POS hacks willing to do the work at half said fair price. (Contrary to the popular claim their work is shotty...these POS low balling illegal imigrants don't do that bad of work... They just cheat their asses off to bump the price to a fair one) Such is life.... you want to keep the status quo? Be a pilot fish.. (BTW good write Snooch... sounds like something I've read or heard before) I myself will continue to be the happiest mother effing asshole doing random acts of charity whenever possible. (Still free, with no charge, no strings attached, as always with no expectation of anything in return.)

And just so you know .. :wave-finger:

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Welcome back, So.... Tell us how you really feel about the industry. I think you hit a few points very good. :smiley2eatingpopcorn:


GOOD things happen for a reason......

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bla bla bla.... and yes most nationals are fecal matter when it comes to "delivering"........ I'm too busy lately to post. go a head and ban me again because I'll eventually tell you like it is.... again.... and you won't like it..... again....

:wave-finger:

Socialism: You have 2 cows; give one to your neighbor

Communism: You have 2 cows; government takes both and gives you the milk

Fascism: You have 2 cows; government takes both and sells you the milk

Nazism: You have 2 cows; the government takes both and shoots you

Bureaucracy: You have 2 cows; the government takes both, shoots one, milks the other and throws away the milk

Capitalism: You have 2 cows; u sell one and buy a bull

Posers, panties, and politics.... plentiful in the national service market.

Before anyone goes and tells me this is off topic, unrelated to such, or I'm not making any sense.... save it. I'm not concerned with your opinion. Boneheads...

Is the following or preceding inflamatory, condensending, or spelled correctly? Who cares?

Here's a prediction..... 4 of the 7 largest sign companies will fail or go bankrupt in the next 18 months. National service will be turned over to plumbers. The syndicatians will bitch and complain about it and wrongfully bash the first person with a functioning solution because it requires real work by their lazy asses. (Something way too many here are scared of....work and the truth) Chubbs will unsuccessfully try to sell his body for sex to try to find me and clear up that rumor on the other site I smacked him in vegas in front of his man....errr... I mean girl. (You're still a hack Chubbs and that's not me) Bread lines will not be part of the next depression..... no one gives a shit about anyone except themselves. Most "leaders" in our industry are mislead by whispers from the peanut gallery and lack true vision. Retail facility leaders are stuck between a rock and a hardplace and unable to "hire" or source quality service contractors at a fair price because there are hundreds of unlicensed POS hacks willing to do the work at half said fair price. (Contrary to the popular claim their work is shotty...these POS low balling illegal imigrants don't do that bad of work... They just cheat their asses off to bump the price to a fair one) Such is life.... you want to keep the status quo? Be a pilot fish.. (BTW good write Snooch... sounds like something I've read or heard before) I myself will continue to be the happiest mother effing asshole doing random acts of charity whenever possible. (Still free, with no charge, no strings attached, as always with no expectation of anything in return.)

And just so you know .. :wave-finger:

The "Big Dog" is back! Growling, snarling and biting with teeth sharp as razor blades...


"Don't be afraid to see what you see" - President Ronald Reagan

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bla bla bla.... and yes most nationals are fecal matter when it comes to "delivering"........ I'm too busy lately to post. go a head and ban me again because I'll eventually tell you like it is.... again.... and you won't like it..... again....

:wave-finger:

Socialism: You have 2 cows; give one to your neighbor

Communism: You have 2 cows; government takes both and gives you the milk

Fascism: You have 2 cows; government takes both and sells you the milk

Nazism: You have 2 cows; the government takes both and shoots you

Bureaucracy: You have 2 cows; the government takes both, shoots one, milks the other and throws away the milk

Capitalism: You have 2 cows; u sell one and buy a bull

Posers, panties, and politics.... plentiful in the national service market.

Before anyone goes and tells me this is off topic, unrelated to such, or I'm not making any sense.... save it. I'm not concerned with your opinion. Boneheads...

Is the following or preceding inflamatory, condensending, or spelled correctly? Who cares?

Here's a prediction..... 4 of the 7 largest sign companies will fail or go bankrupt in the next 18 months. National service will be turned over to plumbers. The syndicatians will bitch and complain about it and wrongfully bash the first person with a functioning solution because it requires real work by their lazy asses. (Something way too many here are scared of....work and the truth) Chubbs will unsuccessfully try to sell his body for sex to try to find me and clear up that rumor on the other site I smacked him in vegas in front of his man....errr... I mean girl. (You're still a hack Chubbs and that's not me) Bread lines will not be part of the next depression..... no one gives a shit about anyone except themselves. Most "leaders" in our industry are mislead by whispers from the peanut gallery and lack true vision. Retail facility leaders are stuck between a rock and a hardplace and unable to "hire" or source quality service contractors at a fair price because there are hundreds of unlicensed POS hacks willing to do the work at half said fair price. (Contrary to the popular claim their work is shotty...these POS low balling illegal imigrants don't do that bad of work... They just cheat their asses off to bump the price to a fair one) Such is life.... you want to keep the status quo? Be a pilot fish.. (BTW good write Snooch... sounds like something I've read or heard before) I myself will continue to be the happiest mother effing asshole doing random acts of charity whenever possible. (Still free, with no charge, no strings attached, as always with no expectation of anything in return.)

And just so you know .. :wave-finger:

I really don't care what is said or takes place elsewhere on another board, leave it there and consider this a fresh start.


You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

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Well, I knew when the 7 days up I would get two cows.

Keyboard Turrets Syndrome: You have two cows. One that would learn from their behavior, or one that would continue to be an ass-wipe that suffer from PC Turrets Syndrome that doesn't think long enough before hitting "post".

Guess we know which one we got back.

Not a sore subject at all, but at least it's finalized here.

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bahahahahaha

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bla bla bla....go a head and ban me again because I'll eventually tell you like it is.... again.... and you won't like it..... again....

:wave-finger:

And just so you know .. :wave-finger:

Someone got told like it is......again>>>>>>>>>>>too funny! :beer-1:

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Unbelievable. Someone's medications need adjusting.

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Erick;

Tell me you didn't ban Signtiffic from the board again. I didn't even get a chance to say hello to the "Big Dog" in a proper manner. I actually think he adds some spice to the board.

Also, I don't post on Signweb but I was reading a very amusing thread that made reference to some on this board. I couldn't help but notice that my screen name was mentioned at the end of a session between two posters. I can only conclude that some think that I am Signtiffic as well? Since you are the administrator on this board, you can clear up any misconceptions regarding this little bit of absurdity. Erick, without revealing all my information, would you verify that I am not Signtiffic. I have spoken to you on the telephone and told you exactly who I am, what I do and what part of California I come from as well as discussing a mutual customer we have serviced. I also told you as a result of contractual considerations I have with some large corporations, I can't really post who I am as I would be in breach of confidentiality agreements I have signed and couldn't speak freely without getting in trouble.

Having said this, in the big picture I don't really care who some people think I am except to say that when they post childish crap, I am embarrassed for them and think it just serves to amplify their basic ignorance. So for the sake of the posters who are battling back and forth, am I Signtiffic?

Dominic (or whomever you would like to think I am)


"Don't be afraid to see what you see" - President Ronald Reagan

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Erick;

Tell me you didn't ban Signtiffic from the board again. I didn't even get a chance to say hello to the "Big Dog" in a proper manner. I actually think he adds some spice to the board.

Also, I don't post on Signweb but I was reading a very amusing thread that made reference to some on this board. I couldn't help but notice that my screen name was mentioned at the end of a session between two posters. I can only conclude that some think that I am Signtiffic as well? Since you are the administrator on this board, you can clear up any misconceptions regarding this little bit of absurdity. Erick, without revealing all my information, would you verify that I am not Signtiffic. I have spoken to you on the telephone and told you exactly who I am, what I do and what part of California I come from as well as discussing a mutual customer we have serviced. I also told you as a result of contractual considerations I have with some large corporations, I can't really post who I am as I would be in breach of confidentiality agreements I have signed and couldn't speak freely without getting in trouble.

Having said this, in the big picture I don't really care who some people think I am except to say that when they post childish crap, I am embarrassed for them and think it just serves to amplify their basic ignorance. So for the sake of the posters who are battling back and forth, am I Signtiffic?

Dominic (or whomever you would like to think I am)

No! I'm Spartacus..

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Erick;

Tell me you didn't ban Signtiffic from the board again. I didn't even get a chance to say hello to the "Big Dog" in a proper manner. I actually think he adds some spice to the board.

Also, I don't post on Signweb but I was reading a very amusing thread that made reference to some on this board. I couldn't help but notice that my screen name was mentioned at the end of a session between two posters. I can only conclude that some think that I am Signtiffic as well? Since you are the administrator on this board, you can clear up any misconceptions regarding this little bit of absurdity. Erick, without revealing all my information, would you verify that I am not Signtiffic. I have spoken to you on the telephone and told you exactly who I am, what I do and what part of California I come from as well as discussing a mutual customer we have serviced. I also told you as a result of contractual considerations I have with some large corporations, I can't really post who I am as I would be in breach of confidentiality agreements I have signed and couldn't speak freely without getting in trouble.

Having said this, in the big picture I don't really care who some people think I am except to say that when they post childish crap, I am embarrassed for them and think it just serves to amplify their basic ignorance. So for the sake of the posters who are battling back and forth, am I Signtiffic?

Dominic (or whomever you would like to think I am)

I know right?

What was "Big Dog" Thinking?!?

I Mean, coming back all snarling, barkin, with his razor like teeth, taking a doo doo in my slippers. Soon my family, friends, neighbors, salesmen, postman, will stop visiting me and coming to my parties and BBQ's because I got "Big Dog" on my porch, letting some pet him with that zest and finesse, but then biting that same hand, and unpredictably I might add. What are you gonna do, ya know?

Sometimes I can relate "Big Dog" to sports. Hey, your probably a 9'ers fan I'll gamble? But I'll use my hated team the Cowboys as another example just in case. T.O. was a pretty good decent player, could catch the ball and run and help the team win games, but he had another side to him, he would only play when he wanted to, created problems within his team, made it divisive and he ended up a locker room "poison". So they had to let him go, and hope he did good somewhere else. But you know the cycle of that story, something for some reason follows him.

Enough time spent on that subject, didn't really finish.

I read that lame thread too on SW. Not sure if anyone thought you were "Big Dog", will have to read it again, but maybe some thought you maybe the other feller or gal. But if there is confusion here I'll let it be known that the, "Snooch".....is not the "Pooch"!

I do have to add, and I thought it was funny if indeed intended, pretty fricken hilarious. Maybe I read too much into it and maybe ignored the simple part to it all , BUT, it was hard to tell if you really enjoyed the Big Dog's TOTAL company as a whole here, or were IF you indeed were setting up the Big Dog to tip over the edge, egging him on to bite someone, almost calculated....by design. :scratchhead: LOLOLOLOLOL!

Anyway, all kidding aside, I truly do hope/wish "Big Dog" the best where ever he goes. I like him, I really do from the conversations I've had with him online in private. But some people just may not be good for online interaction.


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Erick;

Tell me you didn't ban Signtiffic from the board again. I didn't even get a chance to say hello to the "Big Dog" in a proper manner. I actually think he adds some spice to the board.

Also, I don't post on Signweb but I was reading a very amusing thread that made reference to some on this board. I couldn't help but notice that my screen name was mentioned at the end of a session between two posters. I can only conclude that some think that I am Signtiffic as well? Since you are the administrator on this board, you can clear up any misconceptions regarding this little bit of absurdity. Erick, without revealing all my information, would you verify that I am not Signtiffic. I have spoken to you on the telephone and told you exactly who I am, what I do and what part of California I come from as well as discussing a mutual customer we have serviced. I also told you as a result of contractual considerations I have with some large corporations, I can't really post who I am as I would be in breach of confidentiality agreements I have signed and couldn't speak freely without getting in trouble.

Having said this, in the big picture I don't really care who some people think I am except to say that when they post childish crap, I am embarrassed for them and think it just serves to amplify their basic ignorance. So for the sake of the posters who are battling back and forth, am I Signtiffic?

Dominic (or whomever you would like to think I am)

I know right?

What was "Big Dog" Thinking?!?

I Mean, coming back all snarling, barkin, with his razor like teeth, taking a doo doo in my slippers. Soon my family, friends, neighbors, salesmen, postman, will stop visiting me and coming to my parties and BBQ's because I got "Big Dog" on my porch, letting some pet him with that zest and finesse, but then biting that same hand, and unpredictably I might add. What are you gonna do, ya know?

Sometimes I can relate "Big Dog" to sports. Hey, your probably a 9'ers fan I'll gamble? But I'll use my hated team the Cowboys as another example just in case. T.O. was a pretty good decent player, could catch the ball and run and help the team win games, but he had another side to him, he would only play when he wanted to, created problems within his team, made it divisive and he ended up a locker room "poison". So they had to let him go, and hope he did good somewhere else. But you know the cycle of that story, something for some reason follows him.

Enough time spent on that subject, didn't really finish.

I read that lame thread too on SW. Not sure if anyone thought you were "Big Dog", will have to read it again, but maybe some thought you maybe the other feller or gal. But if there is confusion here I'll let it be known that the, "Snooch".....is not the "Pooch"!

I do have to add, and I thought it was funny if indeed intended, pretty fricken hilarious. Maybe I read too much into it and maybe ignored the simple part to it all , BUT, it was hard to tell if you really enjoyed the Big Dog's TOTAL company as a whole here, or were IF you indeed were setting up the Big Dog to tip over the edge, egging him on to bite someone, almost calculated. :scratchhead:LOLOLOLOLOL!

Anyway, all kidding aside, I truly do hope/wish "Big Dog" the best where ever he goes. I like him, I really do from the conversations I've had with him online in private. But some people just may not be good for online interaction.

Erick;

Thanks for clearing up the misconception about Snoochie.

I have to tell you that I did not try or intend to lay any traps for Signtiffic. He is a smart guy with a lot of information and experience to offer. I know he sometimes gets under some peoples skins but you have to read between the lines and extract the information. He is a good guy and I think it is a shame for him to be banned anywhere. After reading the posts on "The Sign Syndicate" and "SignWeb" I think other posters like to draw him into an argument on many occasions to achieve this end result. I categorically can say I am not one of those.

Like I have said many times, Free speech is why I love this country so much. I don't agree with some people on this board but will spill my own blood defending their right to have them and articulate them.

Lastly, even though I have never met you face to face I appreciate the time you gave me listening to my rant about that nameless national contractor. You could have just told me to get off the phone but you didn't. For that I'll always have your back. And after reading your posts, I know also that you are the kind of guy that values your freedom in any form you choose define it in. I know you are passionate about many thindgs and I think Signtiffic is as well.

Well enough of this as I have to hit the field again after meeting an inspector for an electrical/Sign job I am working on for a major oil co.

Best to all on the board and I hope you reconsider Signtiffics participation on this board.

Dominic


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Reconsider? It was scientiffic's choice. All that was requested was to stop the tirade and personal attacks and name calling, etc. And instead he just comes back on and dares to be kicked off. It was his choice, as most things are.

gn

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P'owNed!

Typical, the poodle gets banned and now he's on signweb crying like a little girl for not getting his way. :paperbag: lmao

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Merging these two topics together so we aren't having to see two


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