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I-crane, icrane??? Watch yourselves

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Welcome to the board Stefanik

Have some pics to share of your new truck(s). Also, who is the new owner(s)?


You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

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Stefanik, i see you joined yesterday? From your website you seem like a vinyl graphic and print guy. If you have owned 2 skyjunks and now 3 please, show off some photos of bigger installs than a Subaru with cute stars and sparkly paint. you don't need a skylift to reach the roof on a tiny vehicle for graphics.


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63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.augerondemand.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

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he was one of the first people to buy those things, They used his install pics in their ads

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Sorry but I still think that is too little truck under a 75' - 85' crane.


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Brian Phillips | expresssignandneon@sbcglobal.net | P. 812-882-3278

Express Sign & Neon | 119 S. 15th Street - Vincennes - IN 47591

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sorry i was looking at the wrong stefanik sign company, my apologies. But i would put a harness on in a skylift for sure. still wouldn't look at an icrane


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63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.augerondemand.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

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looks like they are selling an 85 elliott at icrane, maybe they ripped it apart and figure out how to build a crane.


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63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.augerondemand.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

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The last thing you want to happen with a crane is this

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I believe some sensors were not working!! LOL Damn tipping over long ways? with hardly any load.


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Brian Phillips | expresssignandneon@sbcglobal.net | P. 812-882-3278

Express Sign & Neon | 119 S. 15th Street - Vincennes - IN 47591

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he had a lot of stick out for being so low with it, def had some sensors not working id say. That shit makes me sick to my stomach.

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Stefanik, i see you joined yesterday? From your website you seem like a vinyl graphic and print guy. If you have owned 2 skyjunks and now 3 please, show off some photos of bigger installs than a Subaru with cute stars and sparkly paint. you don't need a skylift to reach the roof on a tiny vehicle for graphics.

Hey Signworks, why dont you back off the insults, you dont even know me. I joined this to try to have some intelegent conversations regarding Skylift, I-crane, and all that. Maybe even trade some war stories about Marcum. I'm a damn good installer, I'm very good at what I do. I've had to be, working with the garbage trucks that I've bought from Scam. I have educated myself over the years on what is right and not right in regards to how a crane should be built and I know a lot about them, and I've dealt with that guy a lot longer than you. Why dont you embrace the opportunity to speak to someone who might know a thing or two about what you have gone thru and not be so critical and quick to judge.

I wouldnt mind posting some photos of installs that I have done or my new truck and I will if you want to offer something usefull about them, but I feel you just want to have something to slam and spew insults about so I'm not going to untill I feel like you can and want to have a respectful conversation.

The new Owners name is Earnest Hillard. He owned the steel manufacturing facility that Marcum was using to stamp out his boom sections, outriggers and basically all the hardware of the crane. When Scam got in to him for a 1/4 million dollars and wasnt paying the bills. Earnest "legally" took over his entire business. From what I understand Sam, his wife and his daughter were escorted off the property by the police. You can call them and they will tell you all about how that went down. That is how I-crane came to be. This guy has the money and the backing to do what he's doing. I wouldnt say it if it wasnt true but he is sparing no expence in making this a nice unit. He has brought in "real engineers" and experienced crane builders and yes, probably pulled down a few Elliots to see how a crane should work. Hell his shop foreman was a former OSHA inspector if that tells you anything.

When my truck was ready. I was picked up in a private plane 5 minutes from my house, flown down to there facility, spent 2 days going over everything with me and allowing me to oversee the details and custom work that I wanted done. Basically treated like a VIP for 3 days before handing over the truck.

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Well said


GOOD things happen for a reason......

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These are pics off my sign search add. This is my old skylift unit which was a total piece of shit. Nothing like the I-crane thast I got now.

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Like I apologized earlier in post, (why you are getting nasty I don't know) I was looking at this guys website. www.stefaniksigns.com. Still wouldn't look at them. Just let us see the engineer stamp and I will shut up. That is all the participants of this conversation want to see. Just helping out fellow installers and service guys, just trying to save a life.


rocco-baggetta.jpg

63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.augerondemand.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

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Stefanick... We are all in this business to make a good living. We don't want to be robbed or cheated by anyone including customers, suppliers and manufacturers. We all have different views on how and why we do things. Rocco and most of us want to see the proof that this new company is what they say they are. We only have Kendal and you so far. Kendall has given us no new pictures or proof of what we asked for. You also claim the its the best, but no proof either.

I am always looking for better ideas and equipment. I haven't seen anything at I Crane that impresses me. I do see a truck that is user unfriendly. I my area I can not use anything that needs more ground space to operate. I need to be in and out as fast as I can.

I looked at your website too, nice installs. I do suggest that you remove the pictures of the installer without a full body harness in the bucket. OSHA Requirements are clearly violated here. I think that you need to understand and train in fall protection requirements. Violations are expensive. Injuries and Death is forever.

Work Safe, Think Safe, Go home in one piece. We Look forward to your contributions on this site

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Here is a photo of the truck. I have only had it a month and I havnt had much time to shoot photos of it in action. (Or letter it either). When I do I'll post them. Paul, you got me on the fall protection- not very smart espaecially with a Sam truck.

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My Favorite color!


You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

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looks good, but what will you do when you need to get close to a roof peek? that pully looks pretty far. How long will it take to get the basket off? Did they give you a pully for tight situations?


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63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.augerondemand.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

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The pully placement is an issue if I'm not able to crest a rooftop and I have to raise a sign with the load line to a wall. Taking the bucket off takes about a half an hour and is a pain in the ass. Fortunatly, the truck is equipped with a hefty 1000 lb rated jib winch that covers most of those situations. I-crane is aware of the issue of pully placement and looking for ways to improve the design. I did ask them about the engineering stamp that you talked about. They are actively working with OSHA and engineers to attain an OSHA engineered rating. Once they do they told me they are going to have each truck inspected and approved.

The truck is very different than what I'm used to and very much improved. The best way I can explain working with a new truck and design is like having a new girlfriend. I'm taking things slow while I learn her tendencies and charectristics but I really like what I've experianced so far and looking forward to my future relationship with my new work partner and look forward to learning her strengths along with being accepting of her weaknesses and learning ways to deal with them. Nobody's perfect and no truck is either. I already know this is the best truck I have had yet and Im really looking forward to being with her for a while!

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sure do like the color ill give you that! whats the gvw on that? air brakes? Have you had any trouble with those f650/750 chassis? I have "heard" of engine troubles. Is this one set up for the auger? never was crazy about the idea of using the boom as an auger. So much stress put on it

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This is why I am trying to inform you guys. If an accident happens and hope to God it doesn't. You will need to come up with the stamp and paperwork. OSHA does not care that you bought it from I guy that told you it will be certified and safe. IT IS THE OPERATORS PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. You may think I am making fun of your truck and I-Crane, but believe me you need your ass covered. This is why my lawyer sent the truck back to Sam and he had to pay back every penny. Get a stamp or get a lawyer, its for your own good.


rocco-baggetta.jpg

63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.augerondemand.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

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This is why I am trying to inform you guys. If an accident happens and hope to God it doesn't. You will need to come up with the stamp and paperwork. OSHA does not care that you bought it from I guy that told you it will be certified and safe. IT IS THE OPERATORS PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. You may think I am making fun of your truck and I-Crane, but believe me you need your ass covered. This is why my lawyer sent the truck back to Sam and he had to pay back every penny. Get a stamp or get a lawyer, its for your own good.

I've read with interest this whole string of posts - got tired of some of it - but truly - you better get than OSHA certification and engineers stamp, along with a current ANSI inspection. Without all three you are seriously hanging your ass out in the wind! And God help you if an employee gets hurt and a situation comes up --- you haven't seen fury till OSHA comes down on you.

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New truck arrived!

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It is fitted with the Auger option which adds 1400lbs to the truck because the subframe and outriggers have to be made with thicker steel. I'm not aware of any engine issues. I had the same engine and trans package in my other truck and didnt have any issues for 3 years. Only difference is this one is fitted with emissions. Might be some issues there, just not sure yet. The final manufacture GVW is 29,500 as it sits with the generator installed. It has air brakes and requires a CDL. Why dont you call I-crane with all the tech spec questions- Im not thier spokesperson or salesman. Thanks for the props on the color. Shane at I-crane has professional painting experiance and he did a bang out job on the paint. He had all the doors off trim removed hood off. You cant even tell it was not painted from the factory anyware.

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New truck arrived!

Hey, I saw this truck being built when I was down there.

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