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    • Since I would have to travel to South Carolina, I would offer you 1000.00 for the printer. Just let me know.  mark@signin.net.  Thanks, Mark
    • The only recent time I was asked to sign an NDA was for a company that was doing work for a huge international food chain.   The NDA required me to not solicit work directly for said customer for the particular item they were selling (digital menus in the drive thru lanes) so I had no issue that.  I don't make that and any big company wouldn't be interested in dealing with me because I couldn't deliver said product.  It had an expiration of two years, over by now.      I've had other companies ask me to sign NDA's before even looking at their bid package, but declined those.   These asked me to not do work for their client even if I were approached by another company that had landed the account.   Sorry Charlie.   This thread reminded me of an episode from long ago.  Many many moon ago, I was asked by the local Coke bottling company to come in and give them a price on some neon signs.  It was for the Bicentennial.  Within fifteen minutes I was there.  Dang, I'm giving away my advanced age.   I was let into the office of one of the assistant managers who showed me some very detailed drawings and asked for a price for 500 window neon signs.  I told him I'd have to sit down and make a bunch of phone call because the amount then wanted was so big.  It would have entailed getting most the tube benders in the Phila area to drop what they were doing to get this done by their deadline.  A hard task for certain, but I wanted to try.  I asked for a copy of the plans and got the stink eye.  No, I couldn't have a set.  Can they make a copy of just the small scale drawing?   Again, the cold shoulder.  At most i was allowed to make a rough sketch of it to work from.    Needless to say, without a decent of plans I couldn't get anyone to give me costs on multiple units.  AFAIK, they never had the signs made, at least around Philly.  IIRC it was a cool design.  Oh well, they lost out on all that advertising because of being too scared of competition, possibly Pepsi.   However, no NDA was asked for.
    • Read this topic on a Social Media Platform.  We've discussed this in the past but it's been some time.   It reminded me about a fellow vendor who visits some large sign companies all around the US and how he had to fill out NDA's before he even stepped foot inside the front door or warehouse.    It's also a another big reason why most of the topics, comments here on the SS are mostly made/done by Business Owners and less by Employees.  Admittedly sometimes I even get calls or emails from some of our members in panic telling me I need to go in and delete a truth or two otherwise the boss will "whack" them     I mean, sure it helps to protect business accounts, the supposed "Trade Secrets", keep relationships going that shouldn't be "exposed".     It's not only done for employment, but also for vendors and suppliers.   Has common sense and decency gone out the door where there's too many loose lips and NDA's are a must for everything?    What has your experience taught you about having or not having, the horror stories perhaps of NDA's?
    • well familiar with, and love me some neon projects, but aside from the longevity of the led's (which we all know the technology changes daily) - the formed plastic isn't as fragile as neon (if exposed of course) and deserves some consideration.  I've seen some of the less than desirable stuff other manufacturers have put out to compete with neon and just offering that Gemini, in my opinion, leads the charge in alternatives here.  Yeah, clients are always leaning towards cheapest and fastest, but I like to point out or reinforce quality does cost you up front, but pays dividends over time.
    • I agree 100% that clear red glass is the way to go.  However given the cost of neon in my area anymore, plus two transformers plus making an enclosure etc. it's way more than this guy will spend.   it would last the longest by far, but if he won't spend the $ I have to find another alternative.  I am going to inform him that any LED solution I come up with will only last so long.   Hmm, maybe I'll have him buy them from Amazon and so when it dies he won't blame me.   Thanks all!
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