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    • By Erik Sine
      So...
       
      I haven't posted any jobs lately and I need to play catch up.
       
      So I'll start with our latest projects and work myself backwards
       
      As we've discussed so many times on the Sign Syndicate.  There is a time to retrofit, and a time not too.  Neon and Fluorescent lamps/systems should not in most cases be retrofitted to LEDs unless accessibility calls for it.  Otherwise, it doesn't make financial sense for the consumer to do so, or....just so a shop can make a project sale on BS energy efficiency numbers and mythical saving $$$$

       
       
       
      So here are some retrofit jobs that make REAL sense.
       
       
      NEON RETROFIT
       

       
      Here's a chain of Studio's that I've been doing since the early 2000's. 
       
      This particular sign is only partially mine, everything from the Logo and red letters. 
       
      This was the first job I did for them leading up to fabricating all new signs for their locations.  The white is from the previous location and Neon has been in it's original form since the late 90's, and it's 6500K Snow White.  The logo is 15mm Tri-phosphor, Elite 65D I believe.  The Logo and Red was done in 2008.  It's very hard to tell because red and white is hard to capture and a cell phone cam does no justice but the White lettering is dimmer than illustrated and is about 50% of it's original light output. 
       
      Not bad for 20+ plus year old lamps!!
       
      So the owner called up and wanted a revamp.  Had I been the average shop you bet the immediate response would have been LED!  SAVINGS!!!!!  BULLSHIT!  BULLSHIT!
       
      Well, no. 
       
      We're logical over here in SoCal, a land where 50¢ modules would have replaced the Lamp Art.
       
      The logical choice, and more economical choice for the consumer?
       

       
      Going from a single halo phosphate 6500K Snow White Neon lamp to a Tri-Phosphor EGL Designer 7100 Series Lamps.
       
      When we moved and installed (2008) this sign we did so with Tecnolux Silicone GTO and Caps.  All that was needed for this retrofit was new lamps, and leaving the awesome silicone GTO and transformers in place!
       
      Now, I owe you a night shot, the iphone pic I took was garbage, so I'll update that soon.  But the Logo and White letters match up well, and even with the old faces, the sign illuminates like a new sign at night. 
       
      Forgot to mention, the white faces are also from the 90's and they've held up quite well, the Trim Cap is Plasco, also held up quite well for 20+ years old.  During the day, the ace look good, so no need to replace.
       
       
      LED RETROFIT
       
      So a new client...
       
      They called, they were moving and wanted to know if they needed a new sign or whether to fabricate a whole new on because the current was lit up like crap.   Had hot spots, dim a places, and just crazy outages in sections of letters.
       
      It would have been better had I taken night pics, BUT...I didn't know I would be posting and writing about it here so
       
      Had this been some other shop, I'm sure the nightmare would have continued
       

       

       

       
      Yes, two different LED manufacturers in the same sign Woohoo, the electric sign industry in it's finest form right here!  It made me SO proud!
       
      If you're familiar with Gaverieli Plastics, I need say no more, let alone Chinese JS LED's....well, their both China and their both crap. 
      They don't last, they fail, they cause companies problems with having to go back and replace and most importantly...They cost the consumer, YOUR client.
       
      The second sign which they had, made at a different time and by another company was US LED, also garbage.  Illumination was just as bad.  Sorry, didn't get pics of that sign because again, it wasn't my plan to make a post here
       
      If this wonderful, thoughtful sign package doesn't make you cry, I don't know what will.
       
      The original plastic was green vinyl over white acrylic and in such a short time this sign was beat, and probably why they called a new contractor for the work for their sign move.
       
      Well, a new sign made no sense. 
       
      They were just moving a few suites over and they weren't going to get a larger sign so the original would do.  New faces with 3M Lime Green over White acrylic.
       
      The most important aspect of this Sign....
       
      Yes! 
       
      NC Reckless-3 LEDs.  Top Tier Samsung Diodes running on a Constant Current system...NOT Constant Voltage.  1.2 watt modules.  Most important detail about our NC Reckless LEDs?  Their made in Korea NOT CHINA!!!
       

       
      Beautiful!
       

       

       
      Check out that crazy light meter reading!  That's almost 300 surface Foot Candles, which is about the equivalent light output to a 13mm Tri-phosphor white Neon Lamp behind white acrylic.
       
      If that is not simply utterly gross and disgusting, and you're not just sickened by that number, you have no stomach
       
      These Reckless-3 LEDs will NOT be powered up by their low budget power supplies but rather our Union LED Power Supplies made in KOREA, not CHINA!!!
       
       
       
       
       
       
      It's usually best to retrofit out with what was already in a sign, and not change one light source to another.  It's makes more financial sense in MOST cases, not all, but most.
       
       
       
       
       
       
    • By Erik Sine
      NC LED Get's Better and Better $69.99!

       
       
       
      Introducing the NEW NC LED "White Horse" Wide Angle Constant Current Series.
       
      The White Horse CC series is a diffused lens LED module to better spread the light for shallow electric sign applications like 2" push thru architectural cabinets and channel letters available in 2, 3, and 4 chip diode configurations.
       
      The module is the same as the NC Reckless series discussed here
      http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/topic/7353-bright-long-lasting-channel-letters-and-what-it-takes/
       
      • IP68
      • 5 Year 50,000 Hour Warranty
      • 160˙ Wide Angle Diffused Lens
      • Constant Current, NOT Constant Voltage
      • High Brightness LED Module
      • Made in Korea NOT made in CHINA!!!
      • ONLY $69.99 per 100 WH2 Modules 42' Linear Feet
       
      NC LED DOWNLOADABLE SPEC SHEETS: NC-SS-0416-Brochure.pdf
       
      This White Horse series is a 160˙ degree light disbursement LED module and is the same chip for brightness as our Reckless series but because of the diffused lens the light is spread better for even lighting for shallow based sign faces for channel letters, dimensional letters or cabinets.
       
      As you know diffused wide angle modules won't be as effective for standard channel letter illumination as the Reckless series but great for shallow depth channel letters BUT, with the sick brightness of the NC Reckless LED series you can probably use this for both applications.
       
      Two great modules with the same makeup mixed with high Korean standards, with these standards think high, over engineered Japanese standards.... lastly..........say it with me.......NOT made in CHINA!!!
       
       
      For orders use our online shopping cart or to contact us call or email
      (858) 880-1400 / orders@thesignsyndicate.com
    • By Erik Sine
      Okay so....
       
      WOW! 
       
      I'm quite impressed.... 
       
      So I'd like to introduce our newest addition to our family.  The NC White Horse Nano!
       
      These lil suckers are BRIGHT as hell.  Their about .4 watts each, True White high quality tier/grade 6500K Samsung Diodes.
       
      Their approx 5 mini modules per foot, they come in 100 module strings and you get about 25' per string....and as you can see, 3 diodes per module, and just like it's bigger brother "The White Horse" their 160˙ wide angle modules.
       
      But, because their so small, these only come in constant voltage NOT constant current.  The upside is, these are lower wattage modules. 
       
      So many possibilities with these high quality modules that are small, yet pack a BIG punch of light...DAMN!
       
      The good news is, their only $82.99 per string of 25'......The bad news is, there was a miscommunication and they only sent us 20 bags, but more are on the way.
       
      P.S.- NOT made in CHINA!!!
       

       
      NC LED 's are generally pretty small anyway, especially the Reckless-2, but as a visual the White Horse Mini is significantly smaller!!!
       

       
      With Great Channel Letter Benders like the SDS/AdamsTech Machines out there creating some small 8" to 5" Letters, below are a few LED moduldes for visual layout purposes.  Tot he far Left we have our NC White Horse Nano, and NC Reckless-2 to the right of it.  The Reckless-2 can work as well but imagine if this letter just just a little bit smaller.  Visualize the other components needed for in conjunction with the poly-carbonate backs.  The tab support for the aluminum pan letters, the peg stand-offs and well as the secondary wiring hole. 
       
      Larger modules don't make sense for these small tight letters.  With the White Horse Nano's, having that extra room to move modules around makes more sense along with more even lighting than using long or larger modules.  With the White Horse Mini's you won't struggle with letter assembly.
       

       
      The Brightness?  
       
      Everything you would expect from our NC Reckless & White Horse LED Line
       

       
      You can purchase these from our online shopping cart
       
       


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    • Paul;   Your statement   " When I asked why would anyone want to work with your company knowing that you do not pay until you are paid ? I also asked how do we know if you are paid or not paid from your customer ? "   You are exactly on point. How the hell do I know for sure when you have been paid? This comes after being so stupid that I would agree to be paid when paid in the first place.   I just received a query from "FacilitySource" to become a contractor. They have just been consumed by CBRE (Coldwell Banker Richard Ellis), a large player in the real estate/ real estate management area. I received a solicitation sheet from them and I won't even insult the intelligence of those on this venue by posting it.   The response section was very definite but the payment portion was somewhere out in the Cosmos. You could  be  paid only if they got paid and then pay you at some mysterious date in the future. They had a list of discounts that they wanted to take under circumstances that were totally unverifiable. You also had to sign away all rights as a contractor while shielding them from everything. Incredible............   But if I were to sign this nonsense, I would be getting exactly what I deserve.   Just for the record, they intimated that they wanted me to provide service to Lowe's, along with some other familiar major accounts in my area.   I politely refused the offer but thought to myself that if a person made me an offer like this to my face I would have dispensed justice with a broken car antenna right on the spot.   Peace out!  
    • Here is a " National " Maintenance Co that sent me a request to work for them. I read their contract and it included payment statements stating they will only pay their contractors if they get paid by their customers. Also included was a Hold Harmless Insurance Policy covering everyone  And no legal actions can be taken against the National or the end customer  Plus a lot of other nonsense    When I asked why would anyone want to work with your company knowing that you do not pay until you are paid ? I also asked how do we know if you are paid or not paid from your customer ? Here is the answer sent to me                  Hello,   I will take you out of our system. The only reason we wait until the client pays us ( like every other maintenance company that isn’t upfront with you about it ) is because we are nationwide and all through Canada. If we paid every technician before getting paid we would be out of business. That would be millions we would have to lay out.   Thank you!   Dominique DiPalo Vendor Relations RKB Maintenance Solutions 330 Motor Parkway, Suite 306 Hauppauge, NY 11788 P:  516-612-7821 x 413| F: 516-706-1393 E:  DDiPalo@rkb247.com | W: www.rkb247.com
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