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Are they still in business? Google says they are "Permanently Closed" odd But, anyhow they are now listed here

Reminder!!

I have to post this everyone once in a while, so I'm repeating again. For all those those who have access the National Sign & Service Company Review Forum, your participation, NOT your Distance Watching is much needed. Too many are just watching, scanning without engaging. The Review list is ONLY as good as it can be with more engagement. Good reviews of companies are just as good as the, not so good. I can't tell you how many times over the years it's helped get a lot of companies get paid, or saved companies from getting shafted From time to time I get calls or threatening emails to "Remove" content mentioned about said companies. Who does that? Well.....I refuse to do so, and will continue to refuse unless it's something you want removed from your own statement. If you're new to The Sign Syndicate, you should know that the review forum has been a good forecaster for troubled companies that may be not their way out of this industry...and when that has been the case it's drowned some subcontractors as well as suppliers down along with them. It's a sad thing, and at the same time it's saved others. These days for the non-payers they have many tools they like to use, future work carrot dangling, Non-Disclosure agreements, and lately....releasing your rights to a lien process( which in most cases is not legal). Generally trying to get Subs to give up their tools and remedies to get paid In my state of California, subcontractors MUST be paid within 30 Days of invoice, or the Primary Contractor can be fined, or lose their contractors license. So We shouldn't have this problem here in my state, but surprisingly.....we do. Mainly because Subcontractors here accept work outside the state. In most of these cases that contract is illegal because the primary party has NO contractors license in this state. ONLY licensed contractors can Subcontract for projects or maintenance in the state of California. I'm sure most other states who have contractors licenses work pretty much the same way, it safeguards the Primary, the Subcontractor, an most importantly...the consumer. But...we also need the GOOD positive reviews of the Good Guys, so we all know who they are too. This site will only be as great as those who help make it great. If a company is not listed here that you think should be listed, please reply back or contact me by message. Lastly, I'm fully aware that relationships between Contractors and Subcontractors is a two-way street. There are some crappy subcontractors who can perform just as crappy, and have no business, being in business. We have a Review forum is for that as well, HERE Reviews can also be left on the companies marker in the Installer Map All The Best To All

The Gordon Hotel Lights Its Big Sign, And Rolls Out The Carpet For Guest Story: https://www.klcc.org/post/gordon-hotel-lights-its-big-sign-and-rolls-out-carpet-guests

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I Suppose maybe I could include these programs under the Company listed in the National Sign & Service Review listing, not sure if that would help, might be hard to update. I'll make a seperate post or dedicated newsletter to ask members to post information they know in regards to programs each national might have. Any additional feedback or ideas would be helpful

The Century-Old Neon Sign Tearing Up LA Conservationists https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvxp5m/adohr-milk-farms-la-neon-sign-conservation-debate

SNA Displays intros LED display at Times Square SNA Displays has crafted the Broadway Plaza Digital LED displays at H&M's Times Square flagship location at 151 West 42nd Street in New York City. This 19.8 by 85-foot wide display features an oblique return, a gap on the left end of the display that angles away from the main part of the screen, to accommodate future signage, according to a press release. Branded Cities is currently managing advertising and digital marketing campaigns for the 10-millimeter pixel pitch displays, while conceptual design, EDC permitting coordination and documentation were handled by Sensory Interactive. "This project stands out because of the massive signage elements in both static and digital combined into one structure," John Pisciotta, senior project manager for SNA Displays, said in the release. "As one of the country's premier manufacturers of LED spectaculars, we don't typically deal with static signage except to replace them entirely with digital ones. In the end, though, I think the new static sign marries well with the LED display, allowing H&M and future tenants the option to blend classic and modern media."

Op-ed: Leave the sign on Chicago’s Trump Tower By JACK MODZELEWSKI. CHICAGO TRIBUNE | JAN 25, 2021 AT 4:06 PM https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-opinion-trump-tower-sign-riverfront-20210125-a3vc6k2dhnddxmac45zfodqdcu-story.html It’s the most controversial illuminated sign in Chicago — those five huge letters that spell TRUMP on the city’s second tallest building. Residents, downtown workers and visitors have marveled at and derided it, viewing it from nearby sidewalks, office buildings, hotels, riverboats and even from the air on descending planes. Now Chicago Ald. Gilbert Villegas, 36th, says he plans to introduce an ordinance in the City Council aimed at removing the sign overlooking the river from the Trump International Hotel & Tower at 401 N. Wabash Ave. There’s one small problem: The Trump sign was legally authorized. Villegas’ ordinance, if introduced and approved, would compel the sign’s removal contingent on Trump being convicted by the U.S. Senate for treason, sedition or subversive actions. Some believe that the former president’s ouster from the White House and pending impeachment trial are insufficient punishment and humiliation. They want all reminders of Trump’s presidency and his slumping brand sanitized from public life. If the Trump sign was instead a public statue of the man, by now someone may have toppled it. Villegas’ intention may reflect public sentiment, but I take a different view: Leave the sign there. I say leave the Trump sign there in all its backlit garishness so that when kids in the future ask who or what is a Trump, their parents may recount one of the strangest, most contentious and tumultuous presidential administrations in our national history. Leave the sign as a reminder of a time in Chicago’s history when a president of the United States took pleasure in mocking and disparaging the city and its officials. And leave it as yet another reminder of all the slurs Chicago has endured in the past from outsiders as the city grew its reputation as one of the great cities of the world. For anyone not familiar with the history of the Trump building’s sign, it was designed by a Wisconsin company and affixed to the Trump International Hotel & Tower in the summer of 2014. Its letters occupy more square footage than the average three-bedroom home: 20 feet high and spanning 140 feet across the skyscraper’s Chicago River-facing southeast side. The sign weighs almost 12 tons. Its size surpasses other corporate signage on Chicago commercial buildings and hotels. The Trump sign was approved by countless City Hall officials — including two mayors — before it was hoisted on the building. Critics repulsed by its over-the-top showiness included former Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who had approved it but later called it “architecturally tasteless.” But what were our city officials thinking — and expecting from a developer with Trump’s flashy reputation for the spectacular and the ostentatious? Most Chicagoans probably never have noticed a very small sign on the Trump building’s Riverwalk side, which says: “Subtlety is not our strength — Indulgence is.” That says it all. After the sign went up in 2014, the City Council approved zoning law amendments to block future gargantuan signs downtown along the river. After all, Chicagoans prefer their downtown area with its extraordinary array of architecture not to resemble a neon nightmare like New York’s Times Square or Tokyo’s Ginza district. But the Trump sign remained, grandfathered in its protection under past ordinances. Within a year of its appearance as Trump mounted his presidential campaign in 2015, the sign went from corporate logo to perceived political advertisement. Once he became president, the sign became a political lightning rod, drawing ire and protests from Trump opponents and admiration from his supporters. By leaving it there, will the Trump sign provoke future protests. Maybe. Future criticism? Certainly. Will the sign keep visitors away from Chicago? Unlikely. But more important issues will, such as safety on our streets from gun violence, carjackings and other crime. That’s where Ald. Villegas and his colleagues should be focusing their attention.

I guess it's just a virtual convention now, not sure how that is done but I guess I won't be browsing with a beverage in hand.

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After a lot of inquiries I'd just like to mention that we now have plenty of stock Brass Neon Tube Supports, the conventional 1.75" size. You can place orders using out online cart in case quantities of 500 or smaller quantities of 100

Anyone going? I think I'm opting out this year. I love the Vegas Show but the idea of walking around masked up doesn't sound enjoyable, especially trying to have conversations with them on in the middle of a convention hall. The idea of walking around a resort with a mask on just doesn't bring excitement

So, thought I'd give a sneak peek into our New 2021 BrightON LED USA Line Up. CHANGES The big differences between our upcoming version vs our existing is the following. • Slightly Better 6500K Bin • Aluminum PCB from Fiberglass. Because our modules are already super efficient and under driven, this really isn't needed, but it sure is nice to have for thermal cooling (Except BrightON MINI) • Wider 180˙ High Efficient Optics from 175˙ (Picture below) We added a 3 Diode Module BrightON III & Mini (B-Lightning) which will be a 12V Module. The BrightON II and IV will remain 24V By late Summer we will be reintroducing the popular BrightON-SunFire for Sign Cabinets & Monument Signs back into the line. The only difference will be brighter than before, and brighter as a 2.4 watt module than the older 3 watt module. You guessed it....a more efficient chip, more light for lesser power, which also mean it's operating with lesser heat that translates to longer life beyond the long life it already had. BrightON II BrightON IV BrightON III BrightON MINI (B-Lightning) I underexposed these shots below to give shops the ability to see the light angle. Last shot is what I would call real time and not under exposed Current BrightON II NEW BrightON II - Check out that angle!! Real Time Shot If our current BrightON Module Line wasn't already Super Fantastic as it was, it just got better. Most important....besides all the usual specifications I listed above, it's more about the efficiency of the chip we are using in our LED Modules, it's Super...SUPER efficient which translates into more light for LESSER power. This is why we are able to keep our LEDs "Under Driven" whereas other will run and operate right on Peak and in some ways push the limits which results in faster Lumen Maintenance, or Light Degradation over time or outright catastrophic failure. 24 / 12 VOLT POWER SUPPLIES We recommend using our choice LED Power Supply for our system, and that is non other than France Lighting Solutions. France isn't just some brand we so happen to stock. We went out of our way and asked them (truth be told....I got on my hands and knees and begged) if we could compliment our High-End BrightON Line with their High-End LED Power Supplies. Here is the reason why for my pride swallowing experience. With your typical LED Power Supply (Insert name here), you'll be loading (depending on brand) it to 80%-85% of your full 96W channel, or 77 watts to 81 watts of LEDs, leaving room for voltage loss etc to keep from stressing your power supply. With our Brighton II LEDs, that's 96 to 101 LED Modules. We want to offer nothing but the best. With France Lighting Solutions...and if you've been in this electric sign industry long enough to know when it comes to their Neon or LED Power Supplies, you're getting not only quality, but longevity, & dependability. With the France Atlas & Eco Series that we stock to compliment our system, you are getting the only, ONLY "True Power" LED Power Supply in the industry True Power means that you have the ability to load their power supplies to Full Load. YES...Full Load!!! That's the way they were engineered, that's the way they are made, and that is what you're getting alongside our LEDs to give you a complete High-End System for all your Sign & Lighting Projects The Atlas series even has a LED indicator light to tell if you're loading too many LEDs on the power supply. With a France "True Power" LED Power Supply you can load 120 BrightON II LED modules, that's almost a 24 module difference over using another brand LED power supply. That 24 more additional modules can make the difference in NOT having to add another or multiple LED power supplies for a single sign or project. You will be saving cost and labor from having to add another or multiple LED power supplies for a Sign or Cabinet. We are currently stocking France Lighting Solutions 12V Eco & Atlas Series 60W & Dual Channel 120W Power Supplies. We also stock both 24V Eco & Atlas 96W, 60W LED Power Supplies. 24V France Eco 24V 60W - TruPower DRV-2460-E (24V/60W) France Eco 24V 96W - TruPower DRV-24100-E (24V/96W) France Atlas 24V 60W - TruPower DRV-2460-A (24V/60W) 12V France Eco 12V 60W - TruPower DRV-1260-E (12V/60W) France Atlas 12V 60W - TruPower DRV-1260-A (12V/60W) France Atlas 12V 120W - TruPower DRV-12120-A (12V/120W) Dual 60W Channel I've been getting a lot of calls since we switched over from NC LEDs to our New BrightON LED Line, specifically on what BrightON module is equivalent to the NC Reckless Constant Current Module. In Short, BrightON is by far more light efficient (Chip Efficiency) than the NC LED Line. The light is spread wider (175˙ vs 120˙) and, 155/165 l/w vs. 68 l/w.....you're getting more light using the BrigthON Lighting (.72watt) over the .92watt NC LED Reckless. If you're using the 24v BrightON then you're getting longer life out of each module because you're getting lesser heat an resistance running across the wiring/board of each module. Now, back to what is equivalent, or almost...... since it's been asked. The BrightON Lighting in size is equivalent as seen below The size of the module is about the same since so many liked the module size. The NC Reckless LED was 3 modules per foot or 33.33 linear feet per tray of 100. The BrightON Lightning is 36.66 Linear feet per bag of 80 modules. At .72watt Lightning with lesser modules per foot, the light output or luminance on a sign face is far brighter due to chip efficiency. Look at the high efficiency uniform 175˙ optics of the BrightON above and over the NC "White Horse" 140˙ LED which is the same foot print as the 120˙ NC Reckless LED. Both are 12v. Both are constant current NOT constant voltage. Bottomline....The Brighton Lightning puts out far more light because of chip efficiency, cost less per foot than the NC, is operating "under driven" with lesser heat, which will result in longer life, and you will get far more light per bag with wider rows for more light than the NC Reckless Modules. Most LED MFG's will just suggest layouts and tell you how many LEDs per foot without telling you how their LEDs will match up against the Standard Lighting in our industry which is Fluorescent HO Lamps. If you haven't done any lighting for cabinets or never noticed, most fall short of even meeting the luminance that Fluorescent lamps give out on a sign face. The light that falls short is known as "Usable Light", or light that just gets you there. It's not Competitive lighting that you would need if your sign I located in a shopping center in competition with other signs looking to be noticed. So here we have our new BrightON IV.... The conventional Fluorescent HO (800ma High Output) Lamp light output is the standard in the Electric Sign Industry. When loaded, configured, and installed correct with no cross talk, these lamps and ballasts are a VERY good light source that last for years. Our High Efficient High-End BrightON IV HO LED modules match the light output of Fluorescent HO lamps of our longtime Electric Sign Standards in lighting applications. More Light for Lesser Power The Brighton IV LED is Constant Current, uses a High Efficient chip for illumination, mounted on a Aluminum PCB for better thermal cooling...not that we need Aluminum for a chip that is already under driven and produces less heat & resistance due to operating on a 24V System. With the BrightON IV you'll save money in project costs over buying specialized proprietary channels/bars (Another reason for a sale) by simply purchasing some right angle aluminum channels for the top and bottom of a sign cabinet, and placing aluminum tubing in between to mount your High-End low cost BrightON IV LEDs on. Double Face Sign Test Cabinet 4’ x 4’ x 12” D Module to face 5” Sign Face 3/16” Plexiglas MC White #7328 Fluorescent HO Lamp System Lamps in single and double faces cabinet fabrication typically are spaced 12” OC (On Center) Sign Face Luminance: 156.5 Foot Candles Power Consumption: 126 Watts BrightON IV Double Face Sign Cabinet Spacing. 8” OC Module to Module, 12” OC Between Rows for Module to Sign Face in depths of 5” or 3” 5” Module to Sign Face Luminance: 156.5 Foot Candles 3.5” Module to Sign Face Luminance: 164 Foot Candles Power Consumption: 76.8 Watts 126 Watts - 76.8 Watts = 39% Savings in Energy Consumption Single Face Spacing Suggestions 5” Depth, 9” - 9.5” spacing between rows, 7.5” - 8.5” spacing between modules 3” Depth, 8” - 9” spacing between rows, 8” - 9” spacing between modules BrightON IV Usable Light Spacing If you want and need "Usable Light", here it is...some cases call for it. This lighting would be slightly brighter than Hanley's NRG4. Double Face Sign Cabinet Spacing. 9.5” OC Module to Module, 12” OC Between Rows for Module to Sign Face in depths of 5” or 3” Sign Face Luminance: 134.5 Foot Candles Power Consumption: 64 Watts 126 Watts - 76.8 Watts = 49% Savings in Energy Consumption Why use the BrightON IV LED? • For starters it's Constant Current unlike using Principal LED's Constant Voltage Qwik Mods or others. Constant Current means each module is current regulated with translates to longer life. • It's a 24 Volt system, which means our system has half the current running through the wiring and board which translates to half the heat & resistance of a 12 volt system. In other words....Longer Life. • With a 24V system you're able to use more LED modules on a single 96W channel over a 60W channel. LED MODULE COMPARISONS Some may read this next bit in information as being petty. Some don't like it when you supposedly talk about your competition. It's not my aim, I'm merely making a comparison since I get asked a lot. Principal LED are big boys....they have made their way into every trade magazine (brochure) and now have the largest booths in all the trade shows...so I know they can take it. The BrightON-II LED .vs The Principal Qwik Mod 2 LED So....we've been getting lot's questions on how our New High-End BrightON II LED compares to The "New" High Efficient Principal Qwik Mod 2 LED Well, we did a quick "side by side" benchmark comparison to find out. They have some basic similarities. • .8 watt modules • Both 170˙/175+ Optics • Both have Aluminum PCB We compared both LED modules and placed them in 24" x 4.5" x 5" channels using a standard Plexiglas MC white #7328 white acrylic face to simulate a wide channel letter stroke . Modules spaced 6" OC from one another and 3" from the channel walls. Now to find out what the differences are... Once we lit the channel compartments one big difference was the white appearance of each light source. The Principal Qwik Mod produces more of a yellow white illumination on the sign face, whereas the BrightON II is more of a True White. The pictures here may not do justice as it's hard to capture Real Time and Real Life along with how your display may be calibrated. Both BrightON II & Principals's Qwik Mod are .8w modules....The BrightON II is 24V LED module, the Qwik Mod is 12V LED module. 24V means half the current flowing through the system of a 12V system, which translates to lesser heat, lesser resistance than a 12V system. A 24V system is more reliable and a longer life system over time for the very reasons I stated. A 24V system allows you to use a larger single watt channel PSU (96w). The BrightON LED system uses the France Lighting Solutions "True Power" LED Drivers to complete the system, "True Power" means users are able to load the PSU to 100%, where as other LED PSU's are recommended not to go beyond 85% of the rating. A full load 96W France PSU can load 120 BrightON II LED modules. France Lighting Solutions LED Drivers are the only Drivers to date that are 100% loadable. With a 12V system a single channel 60W LED PSU is typically loaded at 85% or 51W of a 60W unit, or 63 Qwik Mods. You can load more modules on a single unit but you would have to be looking at using a 120W PSU that is a dual 60W channel unit. Luminance Right away the biggest take away from this LED comparison in the image below is the Sign Face Surface light output results in Foot Candles using a ExTech Light Meter measuring the High's and Low's in the 7" x 4" rectangle area of the acrylic face. The BrightON II has a Foot Candle Average of 209 versus Principal's Qwik Mod coming in lower at 171 Foot Candles. Constant Current A HUGE difference which will play big in lighting and in life is how the current is driving across each module. The BrightON II is of course Constant Current, NOT Constant Voltage. The Qwik Mod is Constant Voltage. The quickest, simplest explanation and differences is this. On a Constant Current system, each module has a current regulator chip which means each module is current regulated, and protected not to overdrive and create more heat and run hotter. The first module on a Constant Current string is equally as bright as the last module on a string....the result is consistent lighting. If you've ever paid attention to the light testing we have been doing on The Sign Syndicate since 2009', you would know that the best and lowest light degradation or Lumen Maintenance results always came from CC LED systems, Constant Voltage or "Eco" Modules not so much. In a CV System you better hope your LED PSU is not driving above the intended voltage of 12 volts. A slight increase in a fraction of a volt... say...12.2V can kill a LED system fast depending on the makeup of the Modules. When we did our Light Testing "The Great White Hope" we had a incident where a LED PSU operating at 12.25 was used on a Permlight "El Plato Module which was CV and in under 30 days the original output dropped 30%. We had to kick out the PSU and start over with another string of EL Plato's using a manual adjustable LED PSU to assure not to go above 12V. On a typical CV System on long runs the first module will be brighter than the last module on the same string, inconsistent lighting, with a not well regulated LED PSU CV LED will tend to run hotter and brighter in some areas causing a shorter life. The system is solely dependent on the module resistors for protection. In Short.... Constant Voltage = Lesser LED life over time Constant Current = Longer LED life over time Lighting Angles Below.....you can take what you want from this part... We used equal underexposed shots from both LED light sources from a Canon SLR Camera instead of Real Time to show our audience where the optics is transferring light We used a lighting angle chart that we created, made up of 1" grids just to help in displaying where the optics and throwing light. Both Module havewide angle optics, I would just say that the Brighton II throws more light towards the edge of the chart and a little higher up the middle. What It All Means In closing, the biggest differences that can be taken away from this benchmark comparison and what separates the BrightON II are a couple of big factors. • The BrightON 24 volt system which has half the amperage, heat, & resistance than the 12 volt Principal Qwik Mod LED system. You're also able to load more LED modules on a 24V system than a 12 volt system • If you're looking for a more "Purer" white light source, better bin, then the BrightON LED Module family is for you. • More light for less power on the sign surface....better chip efficiency... that was just displayed and shown in Foot Candles....BrightON II 209 FC over Principal Qwik Mod 2 171 FC • Probably the single most important factor? The BrightON LED Family is Constant Current rather than a lower costing system that uses unregulated current in Constant Voltage. What that means for user is....Longer Consistent Life Over Time For Inquiries or Orders you can contact us at (858) 880-1400 | orders@thesignsyndicate.com | or order through our online Shopping Cart

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To update, I ended up going with the Generac for $549 from Home Depot which they delivered the next day. I'm pretty damn happy with it. Starts on the first half pull and is quiet as hell.

Me too. The Generac is fairly new to portable generators (2015) but of course longtime in bigger generators. Yamaha motors IMO are right there with Honda and in some ways even better, and their generator is fairly less expensive than Honda and more reasonable. I'd hate the market to be like TV's where once Sony was the top dog and charged far out of value and just sold the name, then came along Mitsubishi, SamSung, LG, which had far superior units for lesser money. I like the Honda generator too, but wonder if the market of it's competitors has finally caught up where you can spend less for a good or better return

In the market for a portable generator (2200w) to have in the field and thought I was ask here to see what others have been using for Dependability and of course job site Quietness. Honda has always been King (kinda digging their Bluetooth) I was thinking about the Gererac and possibly the Yamaha, which I love for motorsports. Honda is about $1,200 Generac $550 Yamaha $850 But maybe $1,200 is a little much for what others can do just as good...or as needed

I may have made mention of it in certain posts but never a single topic all to it's own. I've had some inquiries here and there, but yes, NC LED is no more. For the last couple of years it was hard to get NC LED to make modifications to existing lines or create new ones. NC was becoming a very stubborn company bent and dictated their product line to European sales. They had open ears at one time, but over time....well. High performance & High End demand for LEDs is so much more, and so different than European standards. So, slowly over time I became frustrated with NC LED. All they wanted to do was push existing lines and NOT change with the times, or demand, or for American demand...we became 2nd tier. I'm not striving to be 2nd tier or 2nd place.... This is one of the main reasons why we took the modifications we wanted to make into our own line. The BrightON Line is just so much more improved over the Reckless NC LED line that we promoted here. The Reckless NC LED line that we dedicated here was top of the line and ahead of it's time....at one time....and that time is long gone. With the BrightON line the user can get more linear light per string, better chip efficiency and get more light per watt, and at 24v the amperage is cut in half, you have lesser resistance and heat running across the system than you would with a 12v system...and have a wider 175˙ true optic lens over a 120˙ Korean module. The Korean typical wide optics for a supposed 140˙ lens was just a diffused lens...nothing more...nothing special. Sure the light spread more, but it was dimmer, it was like taking your hands and choking someone...it was just a matter of dispersing the pinpoint light, you might as well put a piece of diffuser film over the Korean clear lens. From what I'm told the NC LED Plant in Vietnam is closed. The plant in Korea is mainly closed and the company is under re-organization greatly in part due to the China Flu. I'm not sure what NC LED American in NY is doing, I hear it's just a matter of getting rid of depleted constant voltage NOT Constant Current LED stock, and that they may be selling some other LEDs from a company in Korea. Whatever stock we have left is limited. We can special order modules to match up whatever may have been put out before by users, but again it's special phone in order only. Our new and improved is our BrightON LED Line and it WILL change with the times keeping current with our American creativity that knows no bounds or ceiling. That's what we strive for, high-end products for high-end shops. There are plenty of cheap LED modules one can find on Amazon, Ebay, or Alibaba that we have been shocked to find out shops have been using them for their clients...but High-End Signage is not their forte, and best not to compete with that market and longevity is not their standard. Anyhow, thought I would spread the news about NC LED after getting so many inquiries lately BrightON LED Line Topics

Like everywhere else if you're very fortunate to be busy during this shut down, some business's are still willing to upgrade their branding in these slow depressing times We removed some outdated retail signage and upgraded them to their current look. I know, this is normally just an average channel letter sign....*Yawn*......but what's unique is the lighting system that powers it at night. The Illumination? BrightON II 24v constant current NOT constant voltage ....LEDs instead of the industry typical 12v LEDs for half the amperage across the wire and components which translates to less heat, resistance, and in return a MUCH better system for dependability. Not even to mention just how much light for very little power you get from the super high efficient BrightON II Chips with the added 175˙ high efficiency optics. Another advantage of 24V is the typical single channel power supplies are 96W, which means you can et LOTS of LED modules on a single power supply (less parts, less problems) which leads me to the next part... The system doesn't stop at the LEDs, it continues with France Lighting Solutions "True Power" LED Power Supplies. The Electric Sign industries unique and sole 100% load Power Supplies, no not 85%, not 80%.....100%. 5 year Labor / 5 Year Parts. If you've been in this industry long enough I don't even need to mention what "France" products mean....it mean Longevity & Dependability...just the BrightON II LEDs Front and Rear illuminated channel letters. France Westrim Pattern Paper 15" thick Tilt-Up Wall with plenty of rebar, WOOOHOOO!! France Lighting Solutions Power Supplies of course. The Atlas series with diagnostic LED lamp The Finished Day Look The Night Finished Look. For typical 5" deep return channel letters with front illumination light output measured right on the face for decent or as most LED MFG's like to say..."usable light"... if you have a light meter on hand ....."usable light" is right around 150 - 165 Foot Candles....that's just your typical even lighting number. The BrightON II at full stretch already exceeds that and with fewer modules compared to competitors using higher powered LED modules. This set right here gave us an average of 213 Foot Candles right on the face despite the light loss coming out of the rear. Brighton LEDs are "Competitive Light"...NOT "Usable Light" In the end? The client letting me know that they are VERY happy and that the sign looks AWESOME. These are the types of signs you flash to potential clients....Bright, Dependable, & Happy Reviews by Happy Customers. If this sign was in a shopping center the light output alone would stand out, and far above other competing signs. The Recipe: Autohaus Plexiglas MG 3M Translucent Films BrightON II 24v LEDs France Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies Westrim Burroughs Pattern Paper Plasco Trim Cap Paige Wall Busters 3/16" Polycarbonate Plaskolite

France is TRULY one of the best and the electric sign industries ONLY "True Power" 100% load LED Power Supplies on the market and we have plenty of 24V in stock and if you are looking for 12v 60w, or dual channel 120w like the Hanely LED Power supply we have a much better product line in Union Power Supplies. We've been selling them for years and one had one DOA. Union is a good dependable Korean Power Supply MFG

So, as prices of these simple LED "Pass Thru" systems jump in price recently I thought I would offer out a simple individual component Pass Thru with stuff you may already have in your shop. I know, it's not a official U.L. but it's composed of UL parts.....and it's DIRT CHEAP Simple 3/8" conduit 1/2" connector (UL) 1/2" High Voltage GTO Sleeving (UL) which you can cut to your length need without wasting material Drill your normal 9/16" - 5/8" hole through said installation wall and Waaalaaaa Bottomline, it may be acceptable...and you're not paying $4 to $6 for each letter

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Unfortunately, I hear not many actually retire from this industry. I hear retirement is only made possible by electrocution, taking a spill, or some misc means of passing away on the job/shop. No golf course or convertible corvette time ending for me.