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I completely agree. This would be a great educational experience not to mention great test and feedback for icrane which they would welcome. At least that's how I see it.

Before I consider this let me understand properly because at this point it looks like I have everything to lose and all you have to do is try to tear up an expensive unit. Would you be willing to put the purchase price 130Kish $$$ in a third part escrow so that you actually pay the money and it is held if I purchase the truck from them. Secondly obviously there would have to be video cameras or something on the truck to ensure that it was used properly and not sabotoged as that is a lot of money. You do the scheduled maintenance while it is running as that is about 680 hours of run time so there will be filter changes, grease, etc.? Does this apply to only Icrane installed parts or built parts, for example if you blow the motor up, etc., etc. that doesn't seem to be fair to assess to the unit. I would entertain the thought under the right circumstances even though I do think it is juvenile and I have nothing to prove to you but hey maybe it would be good for ICrane to have the exposure. Everybody knows you can tear up any piece of equipment if you set your mind to it. Just a thought of some rules. This is a crazy discussion but it does sound like fun. Have you had a bad experience with these guys or something? Just curious why you think the unit won't hold up when used properly? I also don't know of any company that runs their equipment 24/7 but would be a hell of a test. Does anybody know if this has been done before? Also is 50 foot working height legal in NY, know the state or city has some restrictions...this would be right at 40 feet of boom stick. Don't understand why everyone wants to tear this company apart when several have never even seen the unit but whatever...have never understood that, was why I posted but I guess there's just people that don't want a company to be successful.

This whole discussion is kind of filled with negativity and judgements that some folks have no right to say because they don't even know the company or people that work there. With that said I just wanted to post this for one reason and that is set record straight with first hand knowledge as I have dealt with this company. I have asked them to set record straight but they won't as they say the proof is in pudding. They know their products will speak for themselves and that the way to get good comments is to continually improve so thats what they're doing instead of defending the past. They just want to build good units. They take full responsibility of THEIR actions. I know people that have had issues with Elliott manitex versalift etc. If anybody made one truck that suited everyone then we all would have one. I posted on other thread also to the same effect. Sign works.....you had a terrible unit I saw it. No reflection on these people. You have to understand what happened....Sam got these guys swindled into a deal that left them holding the bag. Even trucks they will say they built were mearly assembled by icrane based on a design they thought was good iherited from prior company. This has only been 10 months ago. They finished many trucks that people had been ripped off on and when the truck had issues they took the heat for it, they honored warranties and fixed trucks that they didnt get paid a dime for in the first place So what would you do? Probably same thing they did...redesign the unit....build the unit, test the unit, start establishing dealers, and get good trucks out in market. Nobody does that unless they intend on putting good trucks on market. Why would you? You would never make money putting crappy trucks on market. As far as Sam marcum he is in no shape or form involved in this business. He stole the web design started signcrane or something like that. He was originally partnered with these guys who fired him after 3 months when they knew what he had done and lied about in past. So he did own a minority stake in Icrane and you can't just fire a partner from day to day operations and take his ownership too. There's a legal process to go through to remove his ownership so again Sam is in no way involved in operation and as a matter of fact they REALLY dislike you even mentioning his name. He cost some poor souls a ton of money and cost the new owner of IC more than anyone. Those that have had problems under the new ownership I bet they have done more than any other company would to fix a truck. They have picked up trucks on site, flown to the truck to fix it, overnighted parts at no charge, sent mechanics to truck etc. In my opinion they have went above and beyond what they were responsible for and much farther than any other company in industry. Now they are making really good units and I'm sure they will have some issues with a new designs but they have done a ton in 7 months since Sam has been gone. Just look at their new IC-50 and then you can judge all you want. If you don't like it don't buy but don't judge these guys on past performance.

Kendal I saw this truck before it came to you. It was really nice. I know the company and was very familiar with sam marcum. I know that those guys were very intent on making you a great truck because you had some faith in the new folks running company. I think they are aware that the trucks were not perfect but I can tell you first hand that those guys pour their heart and soul not to mention plenty of money to turn that company around. Is it perfect....I'm sure it isn't perfect but saw their new truck they put in Atlantic city show about a month ago. They again have made some great strides. Truck is beautiful and saw testing video. They were picking up 2500lbs at 40 degrees and swung all the way around truck boom fully extended. It was rated to do 900 lbs at above stated angle and boom length with unbelievable stability. Also keep in mind this was a 50 foot truck with two stages so different then yours a bit but same idea of 550 chassis with load line and jib. Took a ton of weight off end of boom end hung the basket and mounted winch on top of boom placing the winch pulley at the end of boom giving you full reach with load line. I think it's going to be a big hit in market and I know they have appreciated your support and faith in their abilities. Think they delivered a good truck to you and continue to improve drastically with each truck. I also know their truck is modeled on software and know new design is going through structural analysis. Regardless they are good people with good intentions and will not tell you that they are perfect. They in my experience readily admit fault when it is their fault. Bet they sale a bunch of them. So purpose of this post was to let you know that you shouldn't buy into the negative comments. Your truck I saw was very nice and very well priced. Little odds and ends go wrong with all equipment. Did you make a good decision to buy the trucks....I vote yes but the only person that can judge that is you. You may want another one once you see the 50 footer. Also these guys make these strides very quickly...give them 6 months and I'll bet they can compete with anyone in business if they're not there already.