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  1. 3 points
    So, I've been meaning to post this, so what better time than while it's fresh in my head. I get these from time to time....I think I've mentioned it a couple of times, or maybe I haven't. I received a email shortly after the ISA show from a National Sign Company we were at. Their known for their.....not so good payment schedule. In short they asked me to remove the content about their company on my board, and that it was for the most part untrue, and in most cases under normal circumstances most are paid by 60 days. I'm not going to mention the name of the company, it's not important and email exchange was short. It appears that it all sparked from whatever happened at the ISA Show. I'm not sure if possibly they were a company that took part at the meet and greet, or it was brought up in other ways, maybe over a dinner meeting. Anyhow, my response was basically that if you stick to your promised payment schedule then there shouldn't be any issues. Issues usually happen when companies promise terms then go over that. I also let them know that if they're doing business in states like California (which they are), by law subs have to be paid in 30 days. I also let them know that executing contracts and subbing installs and service work in states like CA is illegal if they do not have a contractors license in those states. In a reply I asked why they go beyond 30 days in the first place. In states like mine (CA) it's the responsibility of the General Contractor to obtain a line of credit to pay Subcontractors if need be, NOT use subs as a line of credit and only paying them once THEY get paid....which in states like CA is also illegal. IN fact in order to get a contractor license in my state you have to have a certain amount of cash flow in your bank account, and you must be bonded ($15K last I looked) which a consumer or sub can go after for unpaid bills or as a fix Lastly in that same reply, I also relayed the fact that it's ridiculous that some Nationals ask Subcontractors that work for them to sign away their lean rights. ( I didn't aim this question at them because I didn't know if they require this, but i just mentioned it as lately it seems like a normal thing to get a sub to sign). Though I doubt a judge would even abide by that as even that is illegal in my state and why there are preliminary lean notices before project work and lean release once paid by subs Well, that's where communication pretty much stopped. I'm posting this because it seems that what we are doing here, coming together and opening up a line of communication about one of our industry's biggest problem IS having an impact....clearly. It hasn't been the first email or call I've received from an unhappy National. At the ISA Shows, I'll say it's thee biggest compliment we get in passing or by those that meet with us is the National Sign & Service Install Review Forum, and having the courage to host such a thing on the Sign Syndicate. My point is this. It's probably the most active used part of this site, but by those who just use it, they need to participate in it more actively rather than just read what someone else wrote about a particular company they may be checking up on. More need to actually participate and give their own feedback for others as well and not be so passive...reciprocate the help. Keep updating your experiences with these companies, whether it's positive or negative, because obviously.....everything we have been doing here is working for our industry
  2. 1 point
    Yes, this site is amazing!! thanks for all the hard work you put into it, It has help me a lot to screen the National Sign Companies, and I will make sure we put more posts on all the nationals we work with.
  3. 1 point
    It is very simple. Pay your Invoices when the job is completed and agreed on. Without the Sub Contractor Sign Companies, The Nationals FAIL. There are many Nationals who pay well and pay on time. GREAT JOB ERIK,
  4. 1 point
    I agree with you about companies that install signs without a permit. They are just hoping the check clears before the City notices it ... then they can start blocking the customer's calls. It happens. The City of Dallas Chief Building Official was talking to me about four weeks ago about a company that installed a big LED sign right off the highway without getting a permit. The City has restricted LED signs quite a bit (in a ridiculous manner, if you ask me) and this LED sign was not legal under the current ordinance. He wanted my opinion on what it would take to pull the sign down. I came across another one on the southern part of the City where we needed to change a face on the sign and I was shocked that they were ever allowed to install the sign so close to the property line. So I pulled an Open Records request (it's easy to do in Dallas) and found they never did pull a permit. Yet another time, in Arlington, I was called out to service a neon sign (this was a few years ago) and when I got there everything was exposed, no conduit, etc. Well, Arlington does on-site inspections so I called the Inspector (great guy, we've dealt with him for years and he's always been incredibly helpful) and asked him how this managed to pass inspection. He told me they never got a permit in the first place. The part that bothers me the most is if that customer came to me asking for a sign I wouldn't get the order because I know I can't permit it. The dishonest guy gets the order but the customer ultimately pays the price.
  5. 1 point
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jChO41M8SI&t=315s Not sure how they collected all these sign fails but thanks for the laughs.
  6. 1 point
    I've run into this before but it's been years. Never directly with the city but under circumstances where I'm in front of a neighborhood review design committee, you know.....where you're seeking an approval before you go to the city and you sit in front of a bunch of @s$hole long-haired hippies who have an opinion about everything other than your project and they just like to hear themselves talk. The pride swallowing situations we find ourselves just for an approval
  7. 1 point
    Many towns now require landscaping and irrigation plans from a landscape architect (specifically for the monument sign) along with the plans for the monument sign before zoning will approve sign. Nobody said sign company has to pay for it, that is part of the conditions portion of your contract where you point out the extras they will need to pay for additionally like the City Fees for review and inspections.
  8. 1 point
    Yes this is very sad to everyone. The " Good Guy " just trying to do the right thing. The other issue is .........These Message Center Sign Companies who sell to the General Public. ( The Florida Specials ) They advertise and sell directly to the Schools, Churches and Public. They sell the sign and send them the 15 Minute Video on how to install it. " You can do it " advice.