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Wow, you will have to root through "their" protections.

A national sign company that I've dealt with for at least twenty-five years wants us to sign their vendor packet again this year. At first it was a few pages but grew over time. Last year it was fifteen pages. Now it's twenty-two pages., plus a three page NDA. I will have someone look it over and give me their opinion but it's getting ridiculous. Their paperwork pusher will say that its' all "standard things" but standard for who and in whose favor? Even if they gave me a ton of work, and it's only been one or two jobs a year recently, I'd be hesitant. if i didn't know someone that does contacts for a living, I'd have to pay an attorney to go over this packet. This is a national that has a good rep but it's getting to the point that we all need an attorney on hand at all times to go over paperwork. Rant over.

This is the late April 2026 Update This month we added in: GE's TX GEN4 12v .9w 6500K LED Module G2G's WOW II Red 12V .72W Also Including the GWH IV Snap Shot of the Project which is also included in the April Evaluation PDF Sheet. The most important thing to take notice i2 the FC / Watt (Foot Candles per Watt). This is the LED Chip Quality and Efficiency, this is the amount of Light Per Power. The bigger the number the more efficient that Light Source is. You might see a Higher Wattage LED Module with a low FC/Watt value, that means it's not too efficient....could even be pushed and in some cases over driven running hot, which can result in shorter life. I'm going to drop an example to put things in perspective. Let's take two 2LED Modules...the Brighton - II, and the EveryLite Rebel LED Module. The Brighton II is .8 watts, the EveryLite Rebel is almost a 1 watt Module at .96w The 362 Foot Candle average EveryLiteRebel is brighter than the B-II Module at 348.5 FC AVG. However the B-II Module has a 108.91 Foot Candle Per Watt Average. So if we were to boost the Module Power of the Brighton - II and make it say, a .84w module instead of a .8w module then we can project the Brighton II Module with Foot Candle per Watt of 108.91 to have a Foot Candle Average of 365.93. The .84w Brighton - II Module would be brighter, under driven, and more efficient than the .96w EveryLite Rebel. Now the Flip Side... If we made the .96w EveryLite Module to a .8w Module apples to apples to the Brighton - II Module, we can project the Foot Candle of the .8watt EveryLite Module would be 301.66 instead of the 362 FC Average. You can see the Handicap here So Boosting the power of so-so chips will give you more light for the "Wow" factor, but in some case is over driving, there is more heat involved....and like all electronics...they hate and fail with heat. This is why a lot of LED MFG's recently make a 2 LED almost 1 watt Module and sell for $40 a bag.... Just something to take note of..... On another Note, I will be taking down the TBA Vendor as the light is too low, and the Principal / Sloan Prism Module as it is dated April's 2026 GWH IV Sheet GreatWhiteHope IV 042826 WOA.pdf

The Brighton LED modules are Top-Tier, High Efficiency LED Modules no matter which Brighton LED Whites or Colors you pick up. All Brighton LED Modules ONLY use High Efficiency chips....meaning more light per power compared to other like powered LED modules. First let me say it's important to always use the same color LED behind solid colored faces (No Outline), i.e. Blue LEDs behind Blue Faces, Green Behind Green etc etc. In another Topic we discussed and displayed why it's better to use Red Behind Red and how much Luminance you will lose on a sign face if you use White LEDs behind Red Faces Here The 12V & 24V .8W Brighton-II and the Brighton Lightning 12V .72W LED modules both have Ruby Red. So let's display just how just how efficient these two High-End LED Modules perform compared to other Red LED modules on the market....and no better way than to show you a comparison than to put other like Power LED modules in a side by side comparison and show what the differences are, with comparing Like Power LED Modules this is truly a great Apples to Apples Comparison! Let's first bring out the two 12V .72Watt LED Modules, the G2G WOW II Red & the Brighton Lightning Ruby Red. Some other big characteristic differences are the following. The Brighton LED Modules are Constant Current, and uses a 18 AWG Wiring. The G2G LED Module is Constant Voltage, and uses a 20 AWG Wiring. Thicker Wire is alway better for long runs and you won't get as much voltage loss in those runs which can incur lower light output especially for Constant Voltage LED Modules. Constant Current LED Systems have IC chips or current regulators on board each Module on top of the conventional resistors for protection, this is added protection for each LED Module as well as assuring that the first LED on a long string is equally as bright as the last LED Module on the string. With Constant Voltage LEDs the first LED on the string will be brighter than the last, also the first LED Module will take a bigger hit than the last LED on a string. With CV Systems, any small reduction in voltage coming from the LED Power Supply due to long runs or inefficient Power Supplies the LEDs will dim even with the smallest fraction of a volt, this does not happen with CC systems...even and consistent lighting, as well as longer life is the advantage of Constant Current Systems. The Comparison is composed of channels for each LED Line that measure 12"L x 4.25"W x 3" Depth Returns The Sign faces are 1/8" 7328 White with one of the Deepest Red Color....3M's 3630 series 33 Red. Each Channel has three LED modules equally spaced 5" On Center Module to Module. Before going further I must stress that it is very difficult to take pictures of Red Light Sources and Sign Faces, it is very hard to truly show the stark differences between the Brighton & G2G LED Modules and how truly brighter the Brighton LED's perform in real life. Using an ExTech Light Meter and measuring the Luminance or light right on the sign face we get the following: For the Brighton Lightning Ruby Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 81, and Low of 71, averaging out at 76 Foot Candles. With three .72 Watt LED modules we get a total of 2.16 Watts, and putting out 35.19 Foot Candles per Watt. The Foot Candles / Watt is important because it's showing the efficiency of the LED Module when it comes to light output. For the G2G WOW II Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 40, and Low of 36, averaging out at 38 Foot Candles. With three .72 Watt LED modules we also get a total of 2.16 Watts, and putting out 17.59 Foot Candles per Watt. In our next comparison we will bring out the slightly higher LED Modules.....the 12V .8 Watt Principal / Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red & the Brighton II Ruby Red available in both 12V & 24V .8watt LED Module. No matter which version Brighton you use 12V or 24V, the Light Output is the same...at 24Volts it's just half the current of a 12V version. Nothing is different in this comparison other than switching out the LED modules, the Faces and Channel Sizes are the same. In this instance we will only use two LED modules form each LED Manufacturer with a spacing of 6" On Center, Module to Module. For the Brighton II Ruby Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 56, and Low of 47, averaging out at 51.5 Foot Candles. With the two .8 Watt LED modules we get a total of 1.6 Watts, and putting out 32.19 Foot Candles per Watt. Again......The Foot Candles / Watt is important because it's showing the efficiency of the LED Module when it comes to light output. For the Principal / Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 26, and Low of 23, averaging out at 24.5 Foot Candles. With two .8 Watt LED modules we also get a total of 1.6 Watts, and putting out 15.31 Foot Candles per Watt. Again I have to stress that the lighting results are better in person than trying to display in a picture, and the stark difference between the two is truly something to see and pay attention to in real time. Chip quality and efficiency is everything when it comes to LEDs, and a comparison like this also makes aware of the other differences such as system wire thicknesses for voltage loss....and are you paying for a Constant Current System, or a Constant Voltage System? Comparisons such as this really shows Custom Sign shops what they are truly paying for, and the quality they are paying for! You could be overpaying for mediocrity with mediocre lighting results. If you're looking for something special, and can pay less for it compared to other products that cannot perform the same then....You've found it! With our Brighton Ruby Red LED Modules, you'll get a High-End, High Efficiency product that will give you Competitive Light, NOT usable Light. The Brighton Ruby Red will Punch at night over those average conventional Red LEDs. Brighton LEDs are all Constant Current for longer life and consistent lighting , and uses a much thicker system wiring for less voltage loss in long runs. Remember this....as a wise man once told me..."Always buy the most expensive and only cry once!" Brighton LEDs are not expensive in cost for $79.99 (Bag of 80), but Expensive in Quality! You can find our Brighton Ruby Red LEDs in a link below. Feel free to log into your account and place orders, or for questions or order by phone (858) 880-1400 orders@thesignsyndicate.com https://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/store/category/51-brighton-led/

The High-End Top Tier Brighton-IV Constant Current LED Module for Sign Cabinets & Large Channel Letters for when you want strong Competitive Light NOT, usable light! The BrightON IV Module as low as $75.00 per bag in small case quantities with FREE SHIPPING The Existing Pylon Sign 44"H x 17'L x 18"D Existing Fluorescent HO Lamps spaced 12" OC as per usual Electric Sign Industry Standard In this simple low cost Retrofit no need for high cost proprietary tracks, clips...just simple aluminum stock you already have in your shop for sign fabrication. $85 worth of 1-1/2” x 1-1/2" angle, 3/4” square tube 1 hour of using self-tapping screws to attach the 1.5" x 1.5" Aluminum angles to the top and bottom of the Pylon Sign and adding in the vertical aluminum bars to where the HO Fluorescent lamps once were. HO Lamps 12” OC Center. 18 Rows, 144 1.6w B-IV Modules, three 96w France TruPower LED PSU’s for the B-IV Modules. The result???.....Godly Light that tears into Daylight! Brighton - IV LEDs Powered by France TruPower 100% Loadable LED Power Supplies Again, the Aluminum angles in this project cost came to $85 total! No Need for high cost proprietary bars, clips, holders.... just use the angles your custom sign shop typically already have in stock for Sign Fabrication. With the BrightON IV Spacing the module cost for double sided projects come to $3 per foot. High Efficiency LED Modules (180 l/w) for more light per power, Constant Current NOTConstant Voltage for Consistent / Even Lighting & Longer Life. 24V instead of 12V for half the current which results in half the heat and resistance. You can purchase the BrightON IV Modules from our store (Here), and in small case quantities $75.00 per bag of 60 as well as our preferred France Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies which include FREE SHIPPING all across the Continental US Only! ...or feel free to phone in your order (858) 880-1400

IDK if they still have Napa. This was for sandwich chain. I won't trust them unless someone can give a recent good experience.

That is a blast from the past.... Do they still have the Napa Account?

Does anyone have any new info on Fairmont? They requested a service call and even said they would pay by CC the day of service. TBH i still won't take the work but maybe things have changed. The PM mentioned a new owner, but I'm doubtful because that's an old story with some companies.

If you’re looking to upgrade your channel letter production workflow, this 2023 SDS Automation ChannelTrimmer® is an exceptional find. It’s in like-new condition, has very minimal hours, and is fully operational. Perfect for shops looking to improve efficiency, accuracy, and production speed. Key Features & Capabilities Automated trim cap processing system designed for precision and consistent output Automatic outside corner notching Marking inside corners for perfect alignment Eight angle notching tools (45°–120°), creating sharp, clean edges on every letter Measures all distances with remarkable accuracy for consistent fabrication Works with industry-standard 150' coil cassettes Compatible with all channel letter benders, not just SDS ChannelBender® units Designed to increase productivity and reduce labor time Condition Like new — purchased in 2023 Extremely low use Fully tested and works perfectly Clean, well-maintained, and ready for production Technical Specs Power: 220VAC, 15A, 50/60Hz System Dimensions: 63" W × 26.75" D × 53.25" H Supported coil heights: 1", 1.5", 2" Material thickness: Up to 0.04" (1.0 mm) Asking Price $38,000 (negotiable) Shipping / Pickup Located in St. George, UT Buyer responsible for freight (I can assist with arranging shipping if needed) Loading help available

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Anyone got a number I can call to help me out on this versalift

Is there anybody that I can call to help me out with this versalift boom truck I bought trying to get it running

Sorry for the delay. Attaching the GWH IV November Results right below. GreatWhiteHope IV 110625 WOA.pdf New product additions I will have for February of 2026 will be: GE TX GEN4 Medium 12V .9w 6500K G2G WOW II 12V .72w Red GE Tetra Max 24V .46w Red The immediate results are nothing new. Typically in the first couple 1,000 hours of operation light output rises slightly as is what we are seeing with the second light result readings. Our next results will be Feb 2026 with the new LED product additions

Unique Signs & Lighting in Las Vegas has an opening in our Design Department. Primarily Production Setup & execution. Ideal seat for newer designers looking to learn the trade. Strong computer skills with the ability to learn various output software. Our primary Software is CorelDraw. Currently supplemented with V-Carve Pro & some Adobe programs. DM me for details. This is an Inhouse - Full Time Position

Where are y'all getting new joysticks for for Skyhoist ? I can, find them anywhere.