Erik Sine

We always see a lot of conversation about how "Safe" LEDs are because they are "Low Voltage". That is not true. A lot of times it can just take a little bit of moisture getting inside of a module casing. So NO, LED Module are not SAFE or DUMMY PROOF just because they are low voltage.

I'm sure ISA will post "Congratulations" followed by re-posts and likes....as Users get ready to PAY MORE....the competition just became LESS!!! Options and Choices at your local Sign Supplier just became fewer, and prices just went up. Be sure to check out your International Sign Association Web Blast and Announcements which will contain "Congratulations Principal / Sloan on your newest / latest acquisition!!!" We all know what this means to the market place....lesser competition....higher prices...lesser quality. This is the reason for Brighton LEDs....It will always remain Top Tier Quality!

Wow, you will have to root through "their" protections.

This is the late April 2026 Update This month we added in: GE's TX GEN4 12v .9w 6500K LED Module G2G's WOW II Red 12V .72W Also Including the GWH IV Snap Shot of the Project which is also included in the April Evaluation PDF Sheet. The most important thing to take notice i2 the FC / Watt (Foot Candles per Watt). This is the LED Chip Quality and Efficiency, this is the amount of Light Per Power. The bigger the number the more efficient that Light Source is. You might see a Higher Wattage LED Module with a low FC/Watt value, that means it's not too efficient....could even be pushed and in some cases over driven running hot, which can result in shorter life. I'm going to drop an example to put things in perspective. Let's take two 2LED Modules...the Brighton - II, and the EveryLite Rebel LED Module. The Brighton II is .8 watts, the EveryLite Rebel is almost a 1 watt Module at .96w The 362 Foot Candle average EveryLiteRebel is brighter than the B-II Module at 348.5 FC AVG. However the B-II Module has a 108.91 Foot Candle Per Watt Average. So if we were to boost the Module Power of the Brighton - II and make it say, a .84w module instead of a .8w module then we can project the Brighton II Module with Foot Candle per Watt of 108.91 to have a Foot Candle Average of 365.93. The .84w Brighton - II Module would be brighter, under driven, and more efficient than the .96w EveryLite Rebel. Now the Flip Side... If we made the .96w EveryLite Module to a .8w Module apples to apples to the Brighton - II Module, we can project the Foot Candle of the .8watt EveryLite Module would be 301.66 instead of the 362 FC Average. You can see the Handicap here So Boosting the power of so-so chips will give you more light for the "Wow" factor, but in some case is over driving, there is more heat involved....and like all electronics...they hate and fail with heat. This is why a lot of LED MFG's recently make a 2 LED almost 1 watt Module and sell for $40 a bag.... Just something to take note of..... On another Note, I will be taking down the TBA Vendor as the light is too low, and the Principal / Sloan Prism Module as it is dated April's 2026 GWH IV Sheet GreatWhiteHope IV 042826 WOA.pdf

The Brighton LED modules are Top-Tier, High Efficiency LED Modules no matter which Brighton LED Whites or Colors you pick up. All Brighton LED Modules ONLY use High Efficiency chips....meaning more light per power compared to other like powered LED modules. First let me say it's important to always use the same color LED behind solid colored faces (No Outline), i.e. Blue LEDs behind Blue Faces, Green Behind Green etc etc. In another Topic we discussed and displayed why it's better to use Red Behind Red and how much Luminance you will lose on a sign face if you use White LEDs behind Red Faces Here The 12V & 24V .8W Brighton-II and the Brighton Lightning 12V .72W LED modules both have Ruby Red. So let's display just how just how efficient these two High-End LED Modules perform compared to other Red LED modules on the market....and no better way than to show you a comparison than to put other like Power LED modules in a side by side comparison and show what the differences are, with comparing Like Power LED Modules this is truly a great Apples to Apples Comparison! Let's first bring out the two 12V .72Watt LED Modules, the G2G WOW II Red & the Brighton Lightning Ruby Red. Some other big characteristic differences are the following. The Brighton LED Modules are Constant Current, and uses a 18 AWG Wiring. The G2G LED Module is Constant Voltage, and uses a 20 AWG Wiring. Thicker Wire is alway better for long runs and you won't get as much voltage loss in those runs which can incur lower light output especially for Constant Voltage LED Modules. Constant Current LED Systems have IC chips or current regulators on board each Module on top of the conventional resistors for protection, this is added protection for each LED Module as well as assuring that the first LED on a long string is equally as bright as the last LED Module on the string. With Constant Voltage LEDs the first LED on the string will be brighter than the last, also the first LED Module will take a bigger hit than the last LED on a string. With CV Systems, any small reduction in voltage coming from the LED Power Supply due to long runs or inefficient Power Supplies the LEDs will dim even with the smallest fraction of a volt, this does not happen with CC systems...even and consistent lighting, as well as longer life is the advantage of Constant Current Systems. The Comparison is composed of channels for each LED Line that measure 12"L x 4.25"W x 3" Depth Returns The Sign faces are 1/8" 7328 White with one of the Deepest Red Color....3M's 3630 series 33 Red. Each Channel has three LED modules equally spaced 5" On Center Module to Module. Before going further I must stress that it is very difficult to take pictures of Red Light Sources and Sign Faces, it is very hard to truly show the stark differences between the Brighton & G2G LED Modules and how truly brighter the Brighton LED's perform in real life. Using an ExTech Light Meter and measuring the Luminance or light right on the sign face we get the following: For the Brighton Lightning Ruby Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 81, and Low of 71, averaging out at 76 Foot Candles. With three .72 Watt LED modules we get a total of 2.16 Watts, and putting out 35.19 Foot Candles per Watt. The Foot Candles / Watt is important because it's showing the efficiency of the LED Module when it comes to light output. For the G2G WOW II Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 40, and Low of 36, averaging out at 38 Foot Candles. With three .72 Watt LED modules we also get a total of 2.16 Watts, and putting out 17.59 Foot Candles per Watt. In our next comparison we will bring out the slightly higher LED Modules.....the 12V .8 Watt Principal / Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red & the Brighton II Ruby Red available in both 12V & 24V .8watt LED Module. No matter which version Brighton you use 12V or 24V, the Light Output is the same...at 24Volts it's just half the current of a 12V version. Nothing is different in this comparison other than switching out the LED modules, the Faces and Channel Sizes are the same. In this instance we will only use two LED modules form each LED Manufacturer with a spacing of 6" On Center, Module to Module. For the Brighton II Ruby Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 56, and Low of 47, averaging out at 51.5 Foot Candles. With the two .8 Watt LED modules we get a total of 1.6 Watts, and putting out 32.19 Foot Candles per Watt. Again......The Foot Candles / Watt is important because it's showing the efficiency of the LED Module when it comes to light output. For the Principal / Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 26, and Low of 23, averaging out at 24.5 Foot Candles. With two .8 Watt LED modules we also get a total of 1.6 Watts, and putting out 15.31 Foot Candles per Watt. Again I have to stress that the lighting results are better in person than trying to display in a picture, and the stark difference between the two is truly something to see and pay attention to in real time. Chip quality and efficiency is everything when it comes to LEDs, and a comparison like this also makes aware of the other differences such as system wire thicknesses for voltage loss....and are you paying for a Constant Current System, or a Constant Voltage System? Comparisons such as this really shows Custom Sign shops what they are truly paying for, and the quality they are paying for! You could be overpaying for mediocrity with mediocre lighting results. If you're looking for something special, and can pay less for it compared to other products that cannot perform the same then....You've found it! With our Brighton Ruby Red LED Modules, you'll get a High-End, High Efficiency product that will give you Competitive Light, NOT usable Light. The Brighton Ruby Red will Punch at night over those average conventional Red LEDs. Brighton LEDs are all Constant Current for longer life and consistent lighting , and uses a much thicker system wiring for less voltage loss in long runs. Remember this....as a wise man once told me..."Always buy the most expensive and only cry once!" Brighton LEDs are not expensive in cost for $79.99 (Bag of 80), but Expensive in Quality! You can find our Brighton Ruby Red LEDs in a link below. Feel free to log into your account and place orders, or for questions or order by phone (858) 880-1400 orders@thesignsyndicate.com https://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/store/category/51-brighton-led/

The High-End Top Tier Brighton-IV Constant Current LED Module for Sign Cabinets & Large Channel Letters for when you want strong Competitive Light NOT, usable light! The BrightON IV Module as low as $75.00 per bag in small case quantities with FREE SHIPPING The Existing Pylon Sign 44"H x 17'L x 18"D Existing Fluorescent HO Lamps spaced 12" OC as per usual Electric Sign Industry Standard In this simple low cost Retrofit no need for high cost proprietary tracks, clips...just simple aluminum stock you already have in your shop for sign fabrication. $85 worth of 1-1/2” x 1-1/2" angle, 3/4” square tube 1 hour of using self-tapping screws to attach the 1.5" x 1.5" Aluminum angles to the top and bottom of the Pylon Sign and adding in the vertical aluminum bars to where the HO Fluorescent lamps once were. HO Lamps 12” OC Center. 18 Rows, 144 1.6w B-IV Modules, three 96w France TruPower LED PSU’s for the B-IV Modules. The result???.....Godly Light that tears into Daylight! Brighton - IV LEDs Powered by France TruPower 100% Loadable LED Power Supplies Again, the Aluminum angles in this project cost came to $85 total! No Need for high cost proprietary bars, clips, holders.... just use the angles your custom sign shop typically already have in stock for Sign Fabrication. With the BrightON IV Spacing the module cost for double sided projects come to $3 per foot. High Efficiency LED Modules (180 l/w) for more light per power, Constant Current NOTConstant Voltage for Consistent / Even Lighting & Longer Life. 24V instead of 12V for half the current which results in half the heat and resistance. You can purchase the BrightON IV Modules from our store (Here), and in small case quantities $75.00 per bag of 60 as well as our preferred France Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies which include FREE SHIPPING all across the Continental US Only! ...or feel free to phone in your order (858) 880-1400

Sorry for the delay. Attaching the GWH IV November Results right below. GreatWhiteHope IV 110625 WOA.pdf New product additions I will have for February of 2026 will be: GE TX GEN4 Medium 12V .9w 6500K G2G WOW II 12V .72w Red GE Tetra Max 24V .46w Red The immediate results are nothing new. Typically in the first couple 1,000 hours of operation light output rises slightly as is what we are seeing with the second light result readings. Our next results will be Feb 2026 with the new LED product additions

Thanks Gary, hope all is well...sorry I caught this late 😁

Attaching the Initial Great White Hope Benchmark Comparison Results for August 2025 Below GreatWhiteHope IV 081925.pdf I will be updating with the first initial snapshot of the comparison. All Questions or Feedback for this Project can be posted in the Support Thread for this Project Here

The Starting Line Up United LED (G2G) 12V .8W 7500K United LED (G2G) 12V 1.2W 7500K Principal Sloan Prism 12V .96W 6500K EveryLite Rebel 12V .96W 6500K Principal Sloan Hanley The One 24V 1W 7000K Principal Sloan Qwik Mod 2 12V .8W 7100K Principal Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red 12V .8W Brighton SunFire 24V 2.44W 6500K Brighton IV 24V 1.6W 6500K Brighton III 12V 1.2W 6500K Brighton II 24V .8W 6500K Brighton II 24V .8W Ruby Red Brighton Lightning 12V .68W 6500K Brighton Lightning 12V .72W Ruby Red What To Look For? The aspect to pay attention to is not only the Current Foot Candle Average for brightness, but most importantly is the Foot Candles Per Watt figures. Foot Candles Per Watt tells us how efficient the LED module is operating . The higher the figure, the better chip quality. It won't matter if a FC Average is a little Lower than another in comparison. The Higher FC Per Watt figure means that LED Module is putting out more light per watt of than others in the same category. i.e. If you have a compartment of 1 Watt LEDs putting out a 276 FC average (Luminance) on a sign face, and a .72 Watt Compartment of LEDs is putting out a 250 FC Average....but has a much greater FC Per Watt figure than the 1 Watt LED compartment, that means if the .72 Watt LED module was also driving at 1 Watt, the FC Average would be far greater....that 250 FC AVG could be 350 FC AVG. The FC Per Watt is the efficiency. The Higher the power in driving, the more heat that module will be operating under. A lot of times Manufacturers will drive LEDs higher in power to make it bright. This is because the efficiency of the chip is not very good so to get it brighter they must drive it higher. More driving means more heat...getting more light from a chip that is operating lower (under driving) will give you longer life in the long run. What We Will See Based On Case History This Benchmark comparison is being held in San Diego, California. So we don't get extreme conditions here, at the most the highs may get to 90-100˙F, and lows to about 45˙F to 35˙F Depending on when we do the month or bi-monthly evaluations, light output will dip in the warmer ambient temps, and the light output will rise as it get cooler. That is how LED react to ambient temperatures and we will see this in the charts. The Lumen Maintenance or Light Degradation over the time period for LEDs is strange and unpredictable. There is no gradual curve down of Lumen Maintenance like Neon or Fluorescent Lamps. Usually these conventional light sources take a 15-20% drop in Lumen Maintenance in the first 1,000 Hours of operation then plain off gradually. LEDs can have a gradual drop, then raise, and drop again and can plain off, or sometimes drop dramatically for a short period of time and plain again. This will be seen on the charts.

The Great White Hope IV - Year 1 August 2025 - Present All Questions or Feedback for this Project can be posted in the Support Thread for this Project Here As stated in the announcement topic we are starting up the 4th round of The Great White Hope White LED Benchmark Comparison. Some maybe asking....why we are doing this? The answer is simple.... We have always done what others have not, or won't do. Every couple of years or so our Electric Sign Trade goes through a cycle of hearing outrageous marketing claims. These claims are always executed but never explained. Back in 2008 when we started the first Great White Hope (Neon vs LED) our industry was hit with all kinds of marketing claims about which light source was better than the other, Neon, LED, or Fluorescent Lighting. In Short, after 40K hours of operation the conclusion was simple and it contradicted everything we thought we knew, and it contradicted everything the Trade Rag Magazines & Sign Associations told us at the time. In that period LEDs just hit the market and they were touted as more efficient, more green, better for the environment than Neon....those claims did not work out so well for the LED world. I'm not going to go down the all the supportive facts you can do a site search. In Short...both Light Sources are Efficient, and both light sources have their pros & cons and one light source is not best for all projects rather should be based on the project application. Fast forward to today, no one is using Neon Lamps for backlighting Channel Letters and Cabinets under a lens or sign face. If you're using Neon it's for exposed applications and it's way more light and energy Efficient that using Neon Faux LED Silicone Junk as we all learned from Project Border Security that we ran Neon vs LED. What we all learned in all the various Benchmark Testing what we have conducted here on the Sign Syndicate is that Neon (Merc Filled) can dim in the cold ambient temperatures because the mercury will condense, and unless you change the Neon Transformer from a 30ma unit to a larger heavier 60ma unit...which will double the current vaporize that merc in the cold, increase in power and Light Output....These light source units do gradually degrade in light output over time because the Mercury will eventually eat through the phosphor coating of the glass....UNLESS... The Neon unit is clear red or Neon gas filled....because it's then just glass and gas with no mercury...hot or cold ambient temperatures will not affect the light source. Most importantly because it's just glass and gas these Neon lamps do not degrade in light output over time LEDs are practically the opposite. LEDs do well in the cold and dim in hot ambient temperatures, hot temperatures can rapidly degrade/damage LED modules as a light source, but not a Neon Lamp. That is why it's important from the start to not overdrive or run too hot. Also, the LED modules light output does degrade overtime based on environmental conditions, how they are driven, and how they are protected. Chip quality of LEDs are everything, the mere appearance of the color rendering to the light per power. As I said above...how they are driven. Poor quality chips won't produce a great amount of light, to make up for it, or to get them to produce more light you must drive them more....which results in over driving and running them hot. Superior quality chips that are truly efficient will give you a lot of light for lesser power. So....if we compare equal driving light source components, and one is giving us more light for a lesser cost of operation, only then....only then can we say the light source that is producing more for less.... is "more efficient". Higher efficiency can equal longer life because it's under driven. The Great White Hope IV Benchmark Comparison Line Up Cabinet Section B United LEDs (G2G) 7500K 12V .8w for Channel Letters United LEDs (G2G) 7500K 12V 1.2w for Large Channel Letters & Cabinets Principal Hanley's The One 7000K 24V 1w LED for Channel Letters & Cabinet (Tap Out, Hanley One Stik) Principal Qwik Mod II 7100K 12V .8w for Channel Letters Principal Qwik Mod II Red 12V .8w for Channel Letters Principal Sloans Prism 6500K 12V .96w for Large Channel Letters & Cabinets G2G Wow .8w Module (Coming Soon) Everylite Rebel 6500K 12V 1w for Channel Letters Everylite 2D .72w Module (Coming Soon) Cabinet Section A BrightON II 6500K 24V .8w for Channel Letters BrightON II .Ruby Red 24V .8W for Channel Letters BrightON III 6500K 12V 1.2w for Large Channel Letters & Cabinets BrightON IV 6500K 24V 1.6w Sign Cabinets BrightON SunFire 6500K 24V 2.4w for Large Deep Double Sided Cabinets BrightON Lightning 6500K 12V .68w for Channel Letters (Coming Soon) BrightON Lightning Ruby Red 12V .72W for Channel Letters A few more surprise Vendor Modules as we go along. All LED Modules will be equally spaced for 2LED Modules, 3LED Modules, and 4LED Module. Cabinet Section A (Left), Cabinet Section B (Right) The Parameters All LED Modules will be in 5" Depth Channels that are 24" x 4.25". Sign Faces will be 1/8" 7328 White by Plexiglas grade C. All 12V & 24V LED Modules will be driven by both France TruPower (100% Loadable) LED Power Supplies The only fault this benchmark comparison will have is that the budget Constant Voltage LEDs like the Qwik Mod II & United LED will be handy capped in Light Output because there will not be any remote slight voltage drop coming from a TruPower LED PSU that will affect the light output drop that would occur in real life setting should a LED PSU be loaded at 80 - 85%. These LED PSU's will hardy reach any load rate....Constant Current LED Modules light output is not affected by slight voltage drops and remain consistent in lighting. So, if we have one fault it lays here, but just know...all Constant Voltage LED modules would normally be a little dimmer in light for two reasons, TruPower LED Power Supply and for the fact that our PSU's will not be reaching anywhere near loadable capacity, and if we were to add modules down the road after initial start, it would affect these CC LED Modules Light Output in robbing voltage. France TruPower LED Supplies LED Module Categories As stated above the individual Channels have a 5" Depth, 24" Width and 4.25" Height. Category A LED Modules will be .6w to 1w for Channel Letters Category AR LED Modules will be .6w to 1w for Channel Letters Category B LED Modules will be 1w to 2w for Large Channel Letters & Cabinets Category C LED Modules will be 1.2w to 3w for Large Sign Cabinets Category D LED Modules will be 2w+ for Large Deep Double Sided Cabinets Category A & AR Spacing Category B Spacing Category C Spacing Category D Spacing This is going to be a hard category to have equal spacing since these LED modules are a little more unconventional and unique. This Category may vary as we add more LED Modules from various vendors. These LED modules typically use Narrow Beam Optics for use in Deep Sign Cabinets. In reality these modules should be applied in a comparison where the depth is 12" Deep or greater. For now the Brighton SunFire is the only Module in this Benchmark and we'll just observe the Lumen Maintenance for now until more are inserted in. Possibly we may do a separate Deep Sign Cabinet Comparison.

It's been a minute since I've been active on the Sign Syndicate I must admit. Real Life activities along with how busy I have been with developing our Brighton LED Line have taken me away from keeping this site active. I wasn't expecting the Brighton LED line to really take off as it has. It's required a lot of attention and I'm purposely trying to keep product circle on who sells it small. Quality is where my focus lays and not Quantity. I have no desire to be the next Principal LED where I get to a point where I'm just selling off a name and let the product quality drop. Since the Principal LED gobble up of the Sloan, Hanley the whole quality in the market place has turned to absolute Dog Shit.....and that is what Shops have been buying...Dog Shit...and they don't even know it Over the last few years it's been a race to the bottom. Wensco, Spandex, Montroy is raging over Principal LED dropping them as a supplier so their rage is focused on their United LED by G2G to complete against Principal / Sloan. Then we have Everylite Raging over G2G which is nothing more than old G2G Employee/Partners splitting off to do their own thing as Everylite bitter at their previous place of buisiness or employment. So Battle Lines are all over the market place and they're all competing for one thing...who can sell the Cheapest Module. We've discussed a lot of this in ad nauseam Chip quality in LED Modules has gone down and price has gone up with the big monopoly along with having fewer choices at the Sign Supplier...All a mixed bag in conjunction in who can sell quantity over quality. This will all get very interesting, real fast So.....I have a need fever, and the only prescription is...... more Benchmark Testing. The Great White Hope IV Just like the predecessors of the GWH III to the original we started back in 2009 we will test the Original Light output of various Vendor LEDs with similar spacing, monitor the Lumen Maintenance (Light Degradation over time) in measuring the Luminance in Foot Candles...or the light output on a sign face....as that is all we care about in the Electric Sign Industry Project Great White Hope We will also display one of the most important qualities when it comes to LED Chip quality that must be given attention too, that many either not know of, or really is never talked about because it cuts through all the Marketing Bullshit and that is the Foot Candles per Watt....this is the Chip Efficiency of an LED and this number will reflect how much light output you are getting for power put it. The higher the FC/W, the better quality chip that LED has in it. You can't get High Light Output from poor quality chips, only high quality chip have a higher efficiency to give you more light for lesser power. For obvious reasons I will not be benchmarking every product out there on the market, just the most visible in the Market Place. Project Tight Whitey For example I will not be testing Principal LED's Synergy Mini or any in the family. A .46w LED module with poor lumen per watt is not worth investing our time to test especially at nearly $400 per bag in cost. To me it's a joke of a product, something with such low output that will last you a long time because it operates/drives too low but you will literally need two to two and a half of these modules that one single LED module will do. So having four .46w modules next to four Qwik Mod II modules would look ridiculous next to one another in a benchmark comparison. Also, a lot of Modules are being phased out.... Our current line up will be the following United LEDs (G2G).8w for Channel Letters United LEDs (G2G) 1.2w for Large Channel Letters & Cabinets Principal Hanley's The One 1w LED Principal Qwik Mod II .8w Principal Qwik Mod II .8w Red Principal Sloans Prism .96w LED G2G Wow .8w Module Everylite Rebel 1w Module Everylite 2D .72w Module BrightON II .8w LED Module BrightON II .8w LED Module Ruby Red BrightON III 1.2w LED Module BrightON IV 1.6w LED Module BrightON SunFire 2.4w LED Module BrightON Lightning .68w LED Module BrightON Lightning .72w LED Module Ruby Red A few more surprise Vendor Modules as we go along. There is no better way to show the Electric Sign Industry and where we sit with the components we use in the signs we produce than creating a benchmark comparison I should have this up and running in the next day or two, I will create a new topic and post here publicly for all to see and monitor over the next few years. Like the previous Benchmarks, all LED Modules will be equally spaced for 2LED Modules, 3LED Modules, and 4LED Module. All LED Modules will be in 5" Depth Channels that are 24" x 4.25". Sign Faces will be 1/8" 7328 White by Plexiglas grade C and all will operate by a shared France Lighting Solutions TruPower LED PSU. The only fault this benchmark comparison will have is that the budget Constant Voltage LEDs like the Qwik Mod II will be handy capped in Light Output because there will not be any remote slight voltage drop coming from a TruPower LED PSU that will affect the light output drop that would occur in real life setting should a LED PSU be loaded at 80 - 85%. Constant Current LED Modules light output is not affected by slight voltage drops and remain consistent in lighting. So, if we have one fault it lays here, but just know...all Constant Voltage LED modules would normally be a little dimmer in light for two reasons, TruPower LED Power Supply and for the fact that our PSU's will not be reaching anywhere near loadable capacity, and if we were to add modules down the road after initial start, it would affect these CC LED Modules Light Output in robbing voltage. Great White Hope Monthly Benchmark Evaluation The Reason I'm rebooting this much needed Benchmark Comparison for the Electric Sign Industry is for a couple of reasons. Our Trade Needs this because too many Custom Sign Shops only knowledge base it dependent on what Sign Suppliers tell them...which is way too reliant on a poor source based on the importance on sales and who they sell now and not yesterday. I also notice with Social Media which is another poor source of reliable knowledge, has been very incorrect and very biased based on who they sell and who their relationships are built around. This simple Benchmark will shed light where there has a lot of poor light on the subject matter This time with our own developed LED line will be in the mix, and of course it will be seeing as biased....in a sense it will come off that way.... But I always have encouraged custom sign shops to develop their own comparisons and really, REALLY see for themselves....as Seeing is BELIEVING More to come......

Come see our BrightON LEDs displayed at the Abitech Sign Supply Booth #4618 this year at ISA Las Vegas....come see what we have coming next!

I haven't had a chance to check out yet, but I'm sure as soon as I do I'mm spending some amount of time in fascination

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