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  • By Miller Signs
    What's the best way to sell my 51 year old commercal sign business?   millersignsinc.com     Tanks,     Rob
  • By Brian
    Is there a way in flexi to determine the distance around a letter ...say for the length of trim cap needed?
  • By Batch
    I haven't been to a trade show since probably 1982 when they had it in Miami.   I guarantee all of the brakes I have used over the years were already old when I went to that show.   If you were looking for a new brake what would you look at? Are the computerized brakes worth the money?   What about 10' shears? We have an electric and a pneumatic shear. But, they both have their nuances.   So, same question. If you were looking for a 10' shear, what would y
  • By richard2717
    Has anyone done work with them recently? Good....Bad?  I have them in the system but no jobs are showing ever done for them. They are in MI.    Thanks Richard
  • By sunshine
    Anyone else experiencing problems with the national, United Visual Branding?  We recently completed a large Audi project for them and they stopped payment on a small check last week, still owe us a large chunk of $ and are past due, are non-responsive to calls/emails, and we found on another forum the PM we worked with was laid-off last month.  
  • By Rocco
    Hi all,   I have to replace some faces on an existing Olive Garden channel letter sign.    Does anyone have the specs for their vinyl - both the green and perf brown.   They gave me PMS colors but nothing close comes up in the 3m color charts.   Thanks!
  • By A.J.
    Hey everybody... hope all is well!   Linking a video I made about how I ditched the conventional keyboard-shortcut life a while ago and switched up to "gamer" peripherals to save time and keep those repetitive strain injuries at bay.  I know these days sign work means long hours in at the computer for some of us so thought this might be helpful...   Thanks for the great site!    
  • By spectrum maine
    i have a  customer who wants a small simple emc.   just words approx 2' by 6' or 3 by 6. 1 color outdoor durable 2 sided... would prefer a hand held keyboard controller for simplicity.  there must be a market for this.. i typically use dak or watchfire because i stand by everything i sell.  i am seeing a huge market for signs in this price point category....any ideas???
  • By Gstirling76
    Did a few things for South Water Signs out of IL. Have yet to be paid. One invoice dates back to May. No responses from emails, VM for accounting is full and no one answers the phone lines. We were supposed to do a bunch of H&R Blocks for them and they lost all the projects as well. Had to cancel the PO's. 
  • By spectrum maine
    just got a request for some work from southwater signs.  good or bad?
  • By Tex Avery
    I know that the Franceformer service master can replace a range of output voltages. My question is • is a servicemaster electronic? Or magnectic? (standard core & coil)
  • By jetplane21
    So we're in the middle of a bank chain rebrand in our area and the 3M Translucent vinyl that we are using for the rebrand has sort of disappeared. All inventories of the color that we were using have dried up and I'm scrambling to try to find more. Thought I would look here for any ideas. The color we are using is 3M 3630-217 Deep Sea Blue. I've also tried to find an alternate. Closest that I can find is Avery UC 900-626 Pantone 285, but I haven't been able to find any stock of that color either

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  • The Sign Syndicate BrightON II LED Module


    Maybe I should have titled it "That BrightON Halo Illumination"

    Thought I would share a project where our new High-End 24 volt, .8watt BrightON II LED Modules were used.

    As I've discussed before in the past.  There is a difference and a gap between "Usable Light" and "Competitive Light".  The BrightON II is the most efficient (Light per power) LED Module in it's class, and it is the definition of Competitive Light.

    As explained here and suggested for spacing, it was chosen to use the 3" module spacer, and obviously  you'll see as you scroll down the spacing could have even been much farther apart. 

  • National Sign & Service Company Review Forum


    The National Sign & Service Company Review Forum is a list of companies chosen or requested by members who produce signs or provide services such as installation or maintenance on a national level .  

    These Companies seek services of local Sign Shops who work as "Sub-Contractors" in regional areas to finish & projects for "Their" clients.

    This is a  Discussion Forum by Members who  have first hand working experience by all listed companies in regards to Payments, Management, & Relationships

    This Forum is for Upgraded Members such as Board Patrons, Board Vendors, & National Board Patrons.  These Upgraded Memberships can be purchased from Subscriptions using the button below

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  • FAIREMONT SIGN COMPANY

     

    "......Anyway, Fairmont contacted me just prior to the time I realized Regency was going to give me the runaround. So at the time, I didn't think to check for feedback here (lesson learned obviously). They asked me to remove a Goodyear sign. Did that, then the Regency crap started, then I saw their feedback. That's about when they asked me to remove signs at a Kwik Car location. I told them I would do it but if they don't pay...."


  • BROADWAY NATIONAL

     

    "....Hey guys so I heard from the long lost Broadway peeps today!  Just a warning to all in my area, they are looking for someone to install a "BIG PROJECT' but was never real specific about what exactly it was.  The  first thing I asked was payment terms and do they give a deposit, she said " Net 60 and only a deposit if we were manufacturing".  I knew they were on my Shady list, and verified it with others here...."

     


  • ICON IDENTITY SOLUTIONS, INC

     

    "....I hear ya!  We've been at this for 40 years and yet I still find myself giving these nationals the benefit of the doubt, only to have it bite my in the arse.  And another problem I am encountering lately is the last minute installs.  Being given ONE day to install a complete site (pylons, readers, building letters, DT, etc.  WTH?  And then 90 days later STILL waiting on payment.  Not any more....."


  • COAST SIGN INC

     

    "....Has anyone had fairly recent dealings with them?  We are working with a JCPenny at a local mall for them.  First trip we go out there and "parts are onsite"... this was a joke as the Neon wasn't even made for that letter and the transformer was not correct.  We have given a quote for...."

     

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  • Cranes, Buckets, & Trucks


    General Sign Truck Discussion

    A Forum Filled with topics such as Member Truck Modifications, adding Ladder Racks, Welders, Jibs.  General Maintenance for Controllers, Cables, Tubing & Lubing, Outriggers, Engines. 

    Make & Model Reviews,  what to look for, what to stay away from.

    Certification News & Regulations.

    Reviews of Sellers

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  • 24V - Sign Cabinet LED Modules


    Double Sided Cabinet Light Spacing For LEDs

    Most Light Source Suppliers and Manufacturers won't show you examples let alone "numbers" of light readings on Sign Cabinet or Sign Projects from light source components they push like these I'm posting here, but....This is The Sign Syndicate!

    "Seeing is believing" as they say.

    So, one of the components I've been big on because of feedback and demand is a strong enough LED module that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, isn't proprietary where you need to buy their special clips, brackets, etc, and actually put out enough light without exaggerated "Usable Light" under too far spread spacing that's supposed to save you money that won't compete with other existing signs in the area of your project. 

    Biggest complaint from sign shops about cabinet LEDs....."I don't want to use a whole bunch of power supplies!"

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  • By Larry McIntyre
    Installer/Manager - Service Tech/Manager Dream Position Available in Dallas/Hiram Georgia • Home Every Day! • No Weekend Work! • More Personal Time! • Competitive Pay! • Commission on Every Job! • Sign-On Bonus! • Insurance Benefits! • Paid Holidays/Vacations! 33 Year Old Company is seeking a leadman/manager to run the installation and service portion of the business! Current leadman is retiring and a replacement is needed. Located in Metro/West Georgia. New Air Conditio
  • By BKBri
    Sign Company looking for sign fabricator, Welding experience Knowledge using/ programing router table. fabricate signs and assist with other shop duties as needed. Ability to work independently and complete daily activities according to work schedule. Ability to understand, follow and transmit written and oral instructions. Ability to meet attendance schedule with dependability and consistency. Must be a team player. Sign Shop experience a plus. Computer graphics/design a plus
  • By Triumph Signs
    JOB DESCRIPTION: - Install, troubleshoot and repair various types of signs, exterior and interior - Sign types include: Channel letters (Neon/LED) pylons/monument signs, digital displays, etc. - Load signage, manage truck inventory, perform surveys - Installation and removal: Complete installation of all types of signage using a variety of equipment (Crane, lifts, ladders, etc.) - Must be able to lift (50lbs), climb ladders, dig footings, set steel, pour concrete -
  • By GNSLLC
    The ideal candidate should have experience and able to: Read and intemperate shop drawings Manufacture aluminum and steel structures Manufacture illuminated and non-illuminated signage Receive products and deliveries Operate shop tools and equipment necessary to sign manufacturing Occasionally assist on jobsites Apply vinyl graphics to almost any surface Applicants must possess a valid Driver’s License and clean driving record. Prop
  • By GNSLLC
    The ideal candidate should have: 2+ years of electrical experience OR servicing internally illuminated channel letters, building and pole signage. Previous sign industry experience is a plus but not required Must be mechanically inclined, take pride in their work, and have an attention to detail. Ability to effectively manage multiple installation and maintenance projects for many of the top brands in the retail, restaurant, hospitality and financial se
  • By ElishaGordon
    MetroSeek is a national executive search firm specializing in recruitment services for the Signage Industry.  We have been retained on a handful of opportunities and are seeking experienced Sign Project Managers in the Denver, CO area.     If you are currently based in the Denver area and have interest in exploring new opportunities, please email Elisha: Elisha@metroseekcorp.com. 
  • By HansonSigns
    Full Time Sign Sales Person Needed. We have awesome customers, a wonderful location and a great family atmosphere. We are looking for a sign Sales person to join our family in the beautiful Pacific NW.  Please tell us a little about yourself along with your resume. View our website in order to better understand the type of work we do:  www.hansonsigns.com Qualifications:   -Able to read a tape measure. -High attention to detail. -Must be able to own your projects an
  • By Souldar
    We are looking for a person who can do all three, Graphic Design/Printing/Shop work.  We are also looking for an installer.  We are a small but growing company with lots of work.  Please send resume's to sales@americanmadesigns.com
  • By al meza
    NOW HIRING Fast paced family owned sign shop in San Diego Ca. now hiring full time installers and fabricators. Experience a plus but willing to train  motivated learners. Full time positions now available. Must be able to work off of ladders and areal booms.Salary based on experience.
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Journeyman Electrician / Serviceman Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike. The Sign Electrician will be responsible for ensuring that sign installations and service are executed to code and meet company standards. Specific Responsibilities include: Troubleshoot sign issues and determine repair requirements Insta
  • By Bryan Vaughn
    Creative Sign Designs is a large Southeastern US leading custom Architectural Sign Manufacturer.  We are currently looking for an experienced Sign Production Manager located at our headquarter facility in the beautiful Tampa Bay area.  If you are interested please send resume and contact me at: bvaughn@creativesigndesigns.com to learn more about this opportunity.  
  • By intrepidsigns
    For the past 11 years I have managed & operated a full service sign company, very simply, I love creating and building things and I have high aptitude for learning.  I thrive in demanding roles.  I have a solid foundation in the Business Management, Organizational behavior, Sales and Technical Skilled Trades. I am looking to achieve a Quality of Life that is beneficial to my family by investing my next 20+ years in a stable organization.  If you are looking for an experienced organi

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  • $68
    The 24V .8Watt BrightON II
    HIGH BRIGHTNESS CONSTANT CURRENT MODULES
     

     
    PROJECT / INFORMATION THREAD LINK
     
     
     
    For questions, place order by phone, please call us at (858) 880-1400 or email us at orders@thesignsyndicate.com
     
     

     
     Product Summary

     
    Product Info
     
    5 Year, 50K Lifetime 6500K 24V LED System High-End High Brightness LED Modules for Channel Letters and Sign Cabinets Constant Current Regulated LED Provides Stability Control Over Time For Longer Life, NOT Constant Voltage .8 Watts Per Module U.L. File E520387 FULLY Weatherproof IP67 175˙ High Efficiency Uniformity Optics 80 Modules per bag.  1.6 Module Per Foot Fully Stretched (50 Linear Feet) 123lm  
     
     
    LED Power Supplies
    Use with our France "True Power" Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies
    http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/store/category/22-led-power-supplies/

     
     
     
     
     
  • $150
    The 24V 3Watt BrightON SunFire LED
    QTY 40 - HIGH BRIGHTNESS CONSTANT CURRENT MODULES
     

     
    PROJECT / INFORMATION THREAD LINK
     
     
     
    For questions, place order by phone, please call us at (858) 880-1400 or email us at orders@thesignsyndicate.com
     
     

     
     Product Summary
    40 Modules per bunch.  
     
    Spacing between modules and rows varies based on depth and sign face type.  Double sided Sign Cabinets 10" to 12" Depth, or Single Sided cabinets 5" to 8"recommend spacing between modules and rows is 10" to 12".  See Double Sided Sign Cabinet article
     
    Shallow cabinets will require tighter spacing (Specs coming soon).
     
    15" Wire length between modules
     
    Product Info
     
    5 Year, 50K Lifetime 6500K 24V LED System High End High Brightness LED Product Constant Current Regulated LED Provides Stability Control Over Time For Longer Life, NOT Constant Voltage 3 Watts Per Module U.L. E520387 FULLY Weatherproof IP66 170˙ High Uniformity Optics 1 Module Per Foot  (12" OC, 40 Linear Feet)  
    LED Power Supplies
    Use with our France "True Power" Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies
    http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/store/category/22-led-power-supplies/

     
     
     
     
     
  • $76.68
    FRANCE LIGHTING SOLUTIONS
    ATLAS "TRUE POWER" POWER SERIES
     
    No Power De-Rating Required
    Supports 100% rated load across the entire operating temperature range
     
    Overload LED Indicator Light
    Instantly alerts you of an overload or short and protects all components from failure
     
    High Electrical Efficiency
    Enables low energy costs and cool operation in a small package
     
    Maximum Water Resistance
    IP68 rating and wet-listed conduit fittings.  For use in wet, dry or damp applications.
     
    UL Listed Class 2 & P (Listed E468013)
    IP 68 (Wet, Damp, & Dry)
    Input Current  (Amps)  1.2/.6
    Input Power  120-277volt
    Output VDC  24volt
    Output Current (Amps)  4A
    Rated Output Power  96W
    Measurements  8.98" x 2.72" x 2.5"
    Weight  2.5lbs
     
     
  • $41.20
    6" Length LED Channel Letter Wall Pass Thru - 10 Pack
     
    Made in America
     
    Versatile feed through insulators that protect insulated LED Sign Wires for Channel Letters, Reverse Channel Letters in wall penetrations (per NEC 300.4), & other Sign bodies or enclosures
     
    • UL 879
    • Listed in the UL SAM Manual
    • Available in 2", 4", 6", & 8"
    • Requires a 9/16" hole
  • $66.75
    Matches up with 3M Poppy Red 3630-143 and Pantone 179 C
     
    PLASCO Trim Cap
     
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    U.L. Recognized & Listed in the UL SAM 151 Feet Per Roll Made In Germany Easier To Fabricate With For Smaller Letters 3/4" Plasco Has The Same Mechanical Clearance as 1" Jewelite Bonds Well To Polycarbonate with Channel Bond (Scroll Below)
     

     
     
     
    PRODUCT INFORMATION TOPIC
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    For large orders, questions, please call us at (858) 880-1400 or email us at orders@thesignsyndicate.com
  • $56.75
    PLASCO Trim Cap
     
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    U.L. Recognized & Listed in the UL SAM 151 Feet Per Roll Made In Germany Easier To Fabricate With For Smaller Letters 3/4" Plasco Has The Same Mechanical Clearance as 1" Jewelite Bonds Well To Polycarbonate with Channel Bond (Scroll Below)
     

     
     
     
    PRODUCT INFORMATION TOPIC
    http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3904-channel-letter-trim-cap-plasco/
     
    For large orders, questions, please call us at (858) 880-1400 or email us at orders@thesignsyndicate.com
  • $45.99
    BOX of 100

     

    Transco To Go, LLC offers a range of popular sized Electrodes used in the neon industry worldwide. The highest quality raw materials were chosen to offer neon manufacturers a quality product coupled with user friendly processing. The manufacturing process is closely monitored throughout and specific Q.C. procedures are incorporated to ensure consistent quality.

     

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    High quality pure iron shells, nickel plated dedicated plant to prevent contamination.

    The complete range has pure ceramic collars and mica discs

    A uniquely developed emission coating to give long life and easier processing

    Lead Free

    Tubulated & non-tubulated
     
     
  • $450
    50 Per Box
     
    TC-300 (large) Porcelain 3-3/8" (L) x 1-1/8" (ID) x 1-5/8" (OD)
     
    Optional High Voltage Terminal Caps


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    • Back in the late 90's, before i ended up buying the family business, my parents talked to several different business brokers.   it took nearly almost two years to find one that was trustworthy.  One just wanted to sell us a book about the history of the business, another couldn't get any interested buyers, some just want to put your business up on a website, etc.   I eventually bought the family business (still not sure if that was a good idea or not) and we worked out our own terms.   Plus there was no brokers commission.   One of my realtor customers is also a business broker and we're supposed to get together.  With COVID on the wane, I hope to meet him farily soon.  Maybe one of your customers is a broker as well as a realtor.   I suggest that you reach out to SCORE and get some free help.   SCORE is part of the SBA and it's all free and the people are eager to help you.   Eventually I am going to have to sell and have been doing monthly zoom meetings to go over that subject, plus lots of other "stuff".    I'm now 63 (and wish I had contacted SCORE thirty years ago) and figure I can afford to retire in another 35-40 years.  :)     Go to the SBA website and search for what you want and they'll match you with someone.   I'm in the local chamber of commerce and another business owner told me that it took him 3-4 years to make one of businesses "bankable" because most buyers don't have the cash to buy you outight.   They will have to go to a bank for a loan so all your books, inventory, etc. will have to be set up so a banker can understand your business and approve the loan.   I'm supposed to catch up with that guy and get more details but we never seem to be at the same meetings.   Again, SCORE will have people who can give you better information than "some sign-guy on the internet".     What I can say that I've been upgrading equipment, having things serviced professionally, keep the trucks on regular maintenence schedules, etc.    When I bought the business, most everything was old and run down but I was used to it and knew what needed to be replaced right away and what could stay.   No one will want a business where a lot of equipment is close to the end of it's useful life.   "New and Shiny" sells better than "old and dusty" even if the old stuff is better than the new.   Best of luck!
    • What's the best way to sell my 51 year old commercal sign business?   millersignsinc.com     Tanks,     Rob
    • I know Neon Wizard does
    • Hey Brian, I tried to get to the art room to ask our Flexi techs. But, it was a busy morning.   I know in Corel Draw if you have the text converted to curves. You can look in object properties at path and it will show the path length. Which is the distance around the letter plus inserts.
    • Thanks Rocco. I was able to find suppliers that would ship to us. But, we would be on our own for set up and training on the new machines.   We are going to send our fabricator to a couple of shops that have purchased from our prospective supplier and check out the equipment before we buy.   Thank you for taking the time to reply!
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