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    LED Retrofit Mythology 101

    in General Message Board

    Posted · Edited by Erik Cin

    Here's something for you all to kick around that I found quite humorous>>>>>>>>510 watts for a 1530 ferro magnetic transformer, who are they kidding???

    Ventex has fallen from grace, for a company who started out selling neon products why don't they state the truth and sell the idea to shops that sometimes the easiest option when lamps come close to end of life>>>>>>>retrofit with new lamps????

    Browse over the the numbers they pull>>>>>>>

    Ventex Retrofit.pdf

    Neon & UL Green Leaf

    in General Message Board

    Posted

    Congratulations to the Neon Group for achieving recognition by U.L.'s Green Leaf program. One clarification I would like to make in the above post is that they "got this accomplished without the help of any other sign organization/association".

    The Sign Industry Business Panel was formed in 2008 to work with UL on business issues of importance to the industry. The panel consists of reps from ISA, USSC and WSA, as well as U.L. The panel is chaired by Rich Gottwald of ISA. One of our earlier projects was working with U.L. to develop the Green Leaf program. The panel participated in developing the relevant U.L. certification criteria for the program.

    While we did not participate in the Neon Group's work on this issue, the Sign Industry Business Panel did set the stage so that products like neon can be recognized for their performance.

    Arrogance at it's peak>>>>>>

    The Do Nothings

    in General Message Board

    Posted · Edited by TecnoluxMan

    I am absolutely beside myself to hear about association affiliated members canceling membership here=========and then have two presidents dodge duck & weave simple questions whether they agree with the content and position of this thread and take wild tangents elsewhere? Holy smokes!===============Nice of you to have neon in your profile photo too, how ironic.

    Most disturbing=========Keep up the good work Eric

    1) Those that have discontinued their membership to this forum have expressed their freedom of choice. Would you feel welcome in a room where you were attacked and labeled as a "do-nothing"? I remain because I still believe the best way engage an uninformed man is to help inform him.

    2) I have dodged nothing. I have directly engaged in the subject and content of this thread. You might refresh yourself in Erik's original attack, "Why is it that every Sign Association is filled with a bunch of "Do Nothings" who are regurgitates/throwbacks from one Sign Association after the other??? Or serving in multiple Associations at one???? They pride themselves in turning government regulation into a profitable program for themselves for all to assimilate to INSTEAD of doing what's right for the industry they represent, AND fighting it! Are they all from France??? Seriously!"

    To this original subject, I have defended what I believe in. None of the examples I've referenced are "wild tangents" but are significant accomplishments from which not one volunteer has profited. Quite the opposite in fact, given the significant expenditures that were made by the asoociations. To reference these devoted individuals as "do nothings" is an affront to everything I've come to value in my many years in working with CSA and ISA.

    3) As for my avatar, there is no irony. How the heck do you even arrive at that conclusion? I am 3rd generation in the sign business, the grandson of Art Nelson, founder of Nelson Neon in 1947 in Richmond, CA, and son of Bill Moore, one of the original founders of the California Electric Sign Association in 1959 and founder of his namesake company in 1974. After 34 years at Bill Moore & Associates, I am currently President and work hard everyday to maintain the tradition of customer service and quality product. I'm proud of this history and will continue to argue the positive characteristics of neon here, with my clients and the proponents of LEDs.

    Skip Moore

    Answered just like a politician========do you not see his rant as a reaction to everything he just listed? Regardless of your family ties to associations & neon, this association has not done one damn thing when it coms to defending it in public relations an as stated======="publicly"

    PS===== For your last statement you edited out, I'm not tecnolux=======but rest assure ====Tecnolux would agree with Eric despite their membership and relations with ISA

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    <p>It seems to me that you are angry because you do not feel that the associations did enough for YOUR personal interest. I think that this forum is a valuable tool, but not to bash those who are working hard to support this industry.</p>

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    <p>We here in Florida through our support to ISA, as well as ISA are working hard on a number of issues related to "Green" building codes, fighting EPA/Government issues related to acceptable mercury levels in Neon and lighting, paint booth restrictions, crane safety, high rise sign Structural Engineering, etc., etc. We also spend a lot of time on code issues, and on EMC legislation. Those are all "real issues".</p>

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    <p>I do not see it as our responsibility to police trade magazines for false advertising. If you think that we are disregarding that issue because our members might be making them, you are sadly mistaken. Wake up, in this information age, people have the ability to say what they want about their products. It is up to us as individuals to make the right decisions from the information we gather.</p>

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    <p>I take offense to the statement that we are advancing our own personal/business interest. Other than the paid administration of ISA, all others are strictly volunteers that offer their time and resources to better this industry. I am sorry if we cannot agree with every individual stance on issues regarding our industry, but we strive hard to isolate and administer to the needs of the industry. Calling us "Do Nothings" because your interest is not at the top of the list is both insulting and irresponsible!</p>

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    Where on God's green earth did you come from to have with such ridiculous & naive statements===== boy we're in bigger trouble than I thought.

    Eric, keep it up=======and don't ever want you to become an association member.

    The Do Nothings

    in General Message Board

    Posted

    I am absolutely beside myself to hear about association affiliated members canceling membership here=========and then have two presidents dodge duck & weave simple questions whether they agree with the content and position of this thread and take wild tangents elsewhere? Holy smokes!===============Nice of you to have neon in your profile photo too, how ironic.

    Most disturbing=========Keep up the good work Eric

    ICRANE Update

    in Cranes, Buckets, & Trucks

    Posted

    Thanks for sharing, It's a real pretty crane that's for sure >>>>>>>>>>> i've read the long skylift thread and this is the second thread on Icrane>>>>>>>I've seen your duplicate post on SW, are you a outside rep for Icrane? >>>>> What's in it for you?

    Future SOT Article on Commercial Solar Project

    in Trade Magazines

    Posted

    I got this sent to my email this morning about a free October subscription>>>>>>>>>> http://issuu.com/signs-of-the-times/docs/1110sign?viewMode=presentation&mode=embed

    This article is not much more than the original write up by Array in the pdf file of the first post of this thread that I downloaded >>>>>>>>> word travels fast from this forum at lightning speed so good job of discussing what wasn't talked about in length when it comes to green energy >>>>>>>>>>That is why this forum is so valuable

    A sore subject

    in General Message Board

    Posted · Edited by TecnoluxMan

    bla bla bla....go a head and ban me again because I'll eventually tell you like it is.... again.... and you won't like it..... again....

    :wave-finger:

    And just so you know .. :wave-finger:

    Someone got told like it is......again>>>>>>>>>>>too funny! :beer-1:

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