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Got a job designed by an architect.
The specs are halo lit channel letters.Black face and returns installed to a white eifs background.
My concern is that it will be hard to read,black letters that make a black shadow, especially at a slight angle.
Also concerned that the eifs will absorb the light and not make decent halo.
I'm thinking of proposing white or brushed letters mounted to a dark colored panel.
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Also there is this
looks to good to true
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Welch-1397-DuoSeal-Vacuum-Pump-/162006888090
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Mine went bad about 10 years ago would not pull enough.At the time welch had a rebuild program.If I remember it was about $750.
Might want to look into that.
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Good thing the car was there or the crane would have been completely flipped over.
I guess somebodys got some explaining to do.
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Wow that was funny.
Must of been more like bizarre to see it in person.
But look at all the money he saved in ratchet straps
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I remember back in the late 70's when I worked as a sign installer.
Seemed like at least once a month we were taking down an old exposed neon sign and pitching them in the dumpster.
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There are many books and a lot of information on the web about sign construction.
I don't think their is one book that covers all the answers about sign construction techniques.
If you don't have an experienced designer/fabricator on board you have to do your own research,research and more research.
I think many may have not replied because it's is funny question.
It's like saying"I want to be a brain surgeon"Can someone tell if there is a book that shows me how.
If you have a particular question I am sure there are many folks here that will help you out.
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They want to meet and talk about their specific installation needs.Ha
This bugs me big time.
What about the small guys payment needs.
I wish I could attend but I can't.
We don't finance these people anymore.
I am a sign company not a bank that loans money.
I still get inquiries every week and I respond with it will be xx amount of money
send the check with the sign and we will install.
Not one of them has said yes to this.
I was having a good day till I read this.
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Might want to think about moving.This was us in NJ just last week
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Reminds me of my younger days as a sign installer.
Ever been on a job when the bucket could not reach something and the only thing to do was put the extension ladder in the bucket ?
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Good article.
Talks about neon and led
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2015/03/trenton_sign_maker_leaves_his_mark_in_lights_glass_1.html
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UFB,
We do about 12 channel or box signs a year.
Tell me about the methods for a listed shop to doc and label a sign.
Does Ul permit this ?
We have already paid for the first year(not the inspections that will be coming up)
maybe this is something for us to consider for next year.
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Eric
I guess I could sub it out but I am so used to making my own stuff and it keeps an employee busy.
UFB
Problem is I never know how picky the electrical inspector is going to be.
Job I am doing now the ahj wants a photo of the labeling that clearly show the file numbers etc.
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Eric
$3050 plus 4 inspections @ $480ea.=$4970
Quote for next year $1480 for the year plus 4 inspections $3400
What hurts is I only do about 1 set of channel letters or box a month.
Bright side is is I don't have to bite my nails when the electrical inspectors are looking at the work.
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We dumped UL about 8 years ago when they started sending us outrageous bills.
Got a big channel letter job coming up in very strict town so we decided to get back on board.
They went from $2,000 a year to $5,000
OUCH
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The word bid makes me shudder.
Especially when they say they are going "Award" the project to the lowest bidder.
I think word of mouth is the best
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how much ?
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We don't do much of this kind of work because of this very same thing.
I tell them up front in a very friendly way &
with a smile on my face.
"We would be happy to do your sign work for x amount of dollars.
Send the check along with the sign.Tape it to the sign face for safe keeping"
I won't go 13 ' in the air without some guarantee of payment.
But holy cow do a job 130' and we will mail you a check whenever.
No thanks
And oh yeah spill the beans
who is it ?
Your secret is safe here
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Last thing I would get rid of is my neon bench.
I don't do much neon anymore.Couple of repairs now and then.
Tube benders are dropping like flies.
I am keeping my bench and equipment for retirement.
When I am the last tube bender standing I will be getting big bucks for my hard earned skills
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I will work for any of these people as long as they pay in advance.
Want me to install a sign for you ?
Send the cash along with the sign..Put the cash in the raceway for safe keeping.
I will get it done ASAP
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Sounds like you are looking for someone to run the company.
How much will you pay some one with all the experience you want ?
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Brutal !
But come on who leaves what looks like 10 x 20 sittin on the ground up right un slung.
Don't think they were attending very well.
I feel sorry for the guy who got hurt.I hope he is ok.
I also feel sorry for who ever was running this job
Hope they all had insurance.
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Looks like the vehicle won.And now somebody has some sign work to do
Looking for opinions
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Thanks Erik,
I see it all the time faces and returns the same color.Looks black streaks.Really bad on small chucky letters.White or light colored cans is best.