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  1. Bill from Ventex said he'd show up to help.

    Looks like the hard part would be getting someone to volunteer their shop, anyone in So Cal L.A area willing? It will be some really good beer I promise :beerchug:

    Forget about the beer and food for me and send me a round trip plane ticket (I'll settle for coach) and a decent room for a couple nights and I am there.

  2. Batch, thank you for the story. I think our government tends to be a double edged sword. For the most part it starts out with the best of intenetions but generally turns out bad.

    I got an email the other day that shows just how reliant the government has taught us to be. It doesnt have anything to do with signs (sorry) but it does go along with the way the last few posts of this thread, and it is just a sad story that shows just how screwed up a 'good thing' can get.

    Read the whole thing.

    Sharon Jasper has been victimized. Sharon Jasper has been rabidly wronged. She has become a Section 8 care case "the victim of ever changing public housing policies.

    Sharon Jasper has spent 57 or her 58 years dedicated to one cause and one cause only, and has nothing to show for her dedicated servitude. She has lived in Section 8 housing all but 1 of her 58 years. It was a legacy passed down from her parents who moved into Section 8 housing in 1949 when she was six months old. She has passed the legacy down to her children, but fears they may have to get jobs to pay for the utilities and deposits. She laments about her one year hiatus from the comfort of her Section 8 nirvana, ' I tried it for a year..you know, working and all. It's not anything I would want to go through again, or wish on anyone in my family, but I am damn proud of that year.'

    Sharon was moved out of her St. Bernard housing project after hurricane Katrina and into a new, yet albeit, substandard quarterage. As can be noted from the above photo of her new Section 8 home, it is repugnant and not suitable for someone of Sharon Jasper's seniority status in the system. 'Don't be fooled by them hardwood floors,' says Sharon. 'They told me they were putting in scraped wood floors cause it was more expensive and elegant, but I am not a fool "that was just a way to make me take scratched up wood because I am black. The 60 inch HD TV? It may look nice but it is not a plasma. It's not a plasma because I'm black. Now they want me to pay a deposit and utilities on this dump.' 'Do you know why?'

    She has held her tongue in silenc e through the years of abuse by the system, but it came to a head at the New Orlean's city council meeting where discussions were under way about the tearing down of the St. Bernard projects. When a near riotous exchange between groups opposing the tearing down of St. Bernard and groups wanting the dilapidated buildings torn down and newer ones built, Sharon unleashed verbal hell with her once silenced tongue. The object of her oratory prowess was an acquiescent poor white boy in attendance. The context of her scathing rebuke was, 'Just because you pay for my house, my car, my big screen and my food, I will not be treated like a slave!' and 'Back up and Shut up! Shut up, white boy! Shut up, white boy!'

    Recapping from the mental log of the city council minutes in her head, Sharon repines, 'Our families have been displaced all over the United States. They are being forced to commit crimes in cities they are unfamiliar with. It is a very uncomfor table situation for them. Bring them back, then let's talk about redevelopment.'

    Sharon directs the reporter's attention across the street to Duncan Plaza where homeless people are living in tents and states that, 'I might do better out there with one of these tents.' She further lamented her sentiments about her situation,' I might be poor, but I don't have to live poor.

  3. True, Mr. Solo is indeed the cooler of the two. However Skywalker is the one that always makes the winning shot!

    I just noticed the banner on the front page, they really got you wound up dont they. I would imagine you could be one to make some noise about it too with the resources you have at hand. F**ckin awesome, Viva Le Resistance!! :headbang:

    I had actually come up with a few questions and discussion about the topic at hand but damn it I plan to be an ultra busy day dealing with folks and I wanna stay in a good mood as long as I can.

  4. Now I am sure that 20-30 of those views are from me. I am always getting caught up in running out of time when typing a long winded response.

    Erik, perhaps you are the Luke Skywalker of our generation in the sign industry.

    I think regardless of the improvements that we 'may' see with LED's (which I will say doesnt do a thing for me as I tend to live in the now and for some odd reason tend to have good common sense that has always told me that LED companies are full of shit and recently have been proven so by neon folk doing their homework as well as obvious LED failures and short comings, simply put they have not been the saving grace they have been said to be by a long shot, but I guess we will see how the future unfolds) we have more to deal with than LED manufacturers, government and such. We also have the general public that has a big hole in their cheeks from the big ole fishing hook that has been cast. I think all would agree that the sign industry is quite small compared to the general public.

    Unfortunately we have industry associations that are paid to act in our best interests and for the most part we let them do what they want. How many association member actually do more than send in their monthly check. As you, Erik, have been saying without a loud voice no one will be prompted to do anything. Why should they, no one is fussin so lets do it.

    As for fussing on a web site, it is certainly a great tool to get info out to folks looking for it. As the dude that is buying a new dedicated server mentioned, he is picking up on a lot. And as Gary mentioned, what is he going to do with this new found knowledge?

    Here we are again, this is third time I have started to reply to this and have ran out of time. Even though I feel my comments are incomplete and ramblish I will post it just so you folks will know there is someone else concerned about this and also looking into it.

  5. I know that we are well insured but I do not know of us having any particular licensing. There are a few cities around us that require us to become licensed by the city which as I understand is filling out some paper work for the city that lets them know who we are and that we are indeed insured.

    Are you guys talking about electrical licenses, installation licenses, business licenses or what?

  6. Welll----you have to turn it on to see the color, dummy. Kinda like a newbie looking at a glass flask and saying "it's empty".

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    Thats a good one there. Fortunately I did not (at least I dont recall) asking this. But I have been asked a couple times.

  7. Well, from my experience it is awfully difficult to maintain a clear topic in forum. I occasionally visit signweb and am happy that they finally got rid of their old forum software and upgraded to something usable. Still, the site on a hole has a lot of a-holes posting.

    Signs101 seems to be mostly well managed and helpful. But, seems to lean toward the graphics side of the industry.

    I like this site the most. But, the thread drift and clashing seem to occasionally be a bit much. The most important thing is keeping on topic with out resulting to gestapo tactics. In example a question about neon should not be an invitation for someone to promote LED technology or vice versa.

    This thread is a good example of a thread with a lot of information to try and stick with and some off topic posts as well. I would think a shorter initial post might illicit more responses. Such as just asking for people who don't post to explain what might help them to participate more.

    My answer would be that I am primarily interested in the functional electrical side. The NEC and UL discussions. Because these topics are not posted on daily. I do not visit nor post daily. I do post and respond when I see it as appropriate. But, people who have something to offer still only come to the forums because the forum has something to offer. Either a place to learn or a place filled with people who are willing to learn and discuss the topic being discussed.

    As stated earlier, I like this site the most out of the forums I visit and would like to see the posting activity increased.

    [sidebar{read only if you want to}] As for the age thing. I am 40 years old and easily the most technologically advanced sign person that I know. I skip the ipod or iphone for that matter for my HTC Kaiser Pocket PC as my phone(ATT TILT with a custom ROM loaded). I connect that to my hybrid tablet PC via Bluetooth to search the net and also have copies of the codes available for search on either device. I am active in many forums and post daily in several tech oriented forums. I have over 25 years in the trade and haven't failed an inspection in probably 15 years. That is as a working sign man in what is probably one of the most regulated areas in the country, South Florida. So I have something to offer and if someone asks a question I can help with I respond. I come here to learn though more than anything.[/sidebar]

    Smooth move Batch, you have just invited another topic change to the original post ironically enough by bringing up,,, topic change. However I would say that the current conversation has plenty to do with the original question of basically why is everyone so quiet and unwilling to become active for the bettering of our nitch in the sign industry (thats how I took it anyway). I think one of the great things about this site is that we are all having a conversation about particular topics. Fortunatelly most all of the time we are all basically civilized throughout, even though the topic may go off on a tangent, the conversation. West Coast Sign Guy posted a question and Gary (and others) have given their take on it. Fair enough I would say.

    Personally WCSG I think the majority of us are basically lazy and feel belittled and ignorant by things of regulation (myself included). The ole "whatever I think say or do wont do anything" feeling is the way I feel about it. It all takes time, effort, knowledge and a network of contacts to get things done on the grand scale of regulation. Already my time is spread thin, I have to prioritize my efforts, I know only a little bit of what I want changed and I do not know any of the people that can help me get what i want done. **Now keep in mind these are general thoughts and just my take on it.

    Now this mercury ban in Vermont and other states coming soon was a total let down to the neon section of the sign industry. This ban has opened the door for other states environmental whackos to join in. And where has been and will be our beloved sign associations? They werent there in Vermont, why would they take care of me even though I have been a loyal 'paying' member since spot was a puppy? These associations are paid to take care of their people and didnt do it. Now that everyone is bitching do we start to notice them to start stepping up to the plate. Now on the flip side of that, what about the neon makers in Vermont? I dont recall hearing of any protesting rallys going on during the legal process of the ban. Laziness is what I get from all that, but who the hell am I here in Illinois. You didnt see me protesting in Vermont, all you saw from me was complaining online. I am a real go getter I tell you. I kind of went to rattling there. Personally I would like to become part of the better good for my industry and I am taking steps to do so but in the meantime until I feel that what I think or say can do any good, I wont be the person to change the world so to speak.

    I think what Gary noted about the younger generation has alot of valid points. My take on this is I have personally seen these spend 5 grand and I am a sign man put my father out of business. I have seen a fella spend a few hours in the fires only to put down on his resume that he is a glass bender (I snapped on this guy when I found out about that one). I have seen younger people spend more time figuring out the most effortless way to do something than it would have taken to do it the 'hard way'. I have seen signs basically ruined and mostly need redone because the advice of the old timer was not taken becaus it was just to hard and time consuming. I have personally seen LED's and digital prints, for example, ruin a sign and cheat the customer out of money because they paid to much for a sign that cannot properly compete with other signs around this customers business. So for these reasons, and many more I am sure (I dont really know because I am still a pup by old timer standards), old timers carefully choose who they share with and everyone in the industry should take not of this when choosing the right sign to offer, the right materials to use and so on. In a perfect world we would all feel free to share our knowledge with anyone that asks. But then again in a perfect world none of us would be dumb ass's and would all have good common sense.

  8. Gary this is probably none of my business but what exactly, and in great detail, did you have to do with the first two?

    I agree, congratulations to you and your wife. Just thinking about it brings me a warm fuzzy feeling to remember the hatching of my two children.

  9. There sould be a little red diamond that will allow you to move the text around the circle.

    If you are using X3 Freddy is correct, you will have a little red shape at the bottom left after you 'fit to path'. Left click on this and you will be able to put the text anywhere along the circles path. Keep in mind that if you select 'shift' before moving your mouse the text will stay on the original circles path otherwise the circle will shift larger or smaller as you move your mouse around. Once you get the text where you want it use the mirror tab at the top to flip the text and then use the red shape to finish if needed.

    Of course this assumes you are using X3. I dont recall it being this easy in earlier version. Or better yet I just didnt know about this feature in earlier versions. I am sure there is a whole lot of stuff on this program that will never even thinks of using or need.

  10. One of the common things I keep hearing on a repeat basis is that the US products been manufactured by the Chinese are good for the first couple of batches, then the rest go to crap :crazy_pilot:

    Seems like that kind of goes along with the 'introductory' sales pitch. Such as the special introductory pricing or quantities and so on. Everything is exactly as you want it to start but once you get settled in pricing goes up, quantities reduce, quality goes away.

  11. I have been involved with a lot of technologies that have moved to China to reduce cost of manufacturing but am starting to see it turn back around.

    The biggest problem is shipment time, communication, and interest in working on USA products. One vendor told me that there is a much bigger market for them in CHINA so they are going to focus on that first.

    I think it is time the USA focus back on developing technologies that are intelligently engineered so that they could be made in the USA, keep more jobs in the USA, etc.

    So I wanted to throw this out to the group - if you could purchase a technology that was MADE IN THE USA, cost the same as the other technologies, and you could get within 1-3 days of when you ordered it - wouldnt that be a bit more compelling?

    I think that is a no brainer there.

  12. You think they would have came up with something better to scam folks with than being a neon guy. Fo example they could have claimed to be,,,, oh i dont know maybe and LED guy or something :laughing1:

    Man arrested on grand theft charges in Martin County

    By Rebecca Panoff TCPalm

    Originally published 06:02 p.m., January 18, 2008

    Updated 06:02 p.m., January 18, 2008

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    David Dyson

    STUART — A Hialeah man was arrested Thursday on grand theft charges after law enforcement officials allege he and another man defrauded businesses in 2004 by posing as a fictitious neon sign company, according to a complaint affidavit.

    David Tyson, 37, was arrested on a warrant and taken to the Martin County Jail, where he remained Friday evening.

    According to the affidavit, Tyson and another man posed as representatives of “Signature Signs,” a fictitious company which supposedly installed and repaired neon signs in August 2004. The two men received case, checks and food from various businesses as payments or deposits for work not completed, the affidavit states.

  13. Oppps....one more thing I forgot to mention...

    I can take a digital photo of the area in question....a building front or maybe the area in the driveway where a monument sign would go...and place the render in this photo in the proper perspective, complete with shaows and the correct lighting so it looks like its inplace!

    This is basically what we are doing now. However our images are rather genaric compared to your images and what I think you are going for. I could see doing something for big clients that a sign company really wants to impress. When we want to impress we put the illustration on photo paper. I know what you all are thinking, but even we can be high class from time to time.

  14. This is the first time I sat down and read the entire story. First off what a f**king moron. When the dude was a toddler did his mother give him these $30 gloves, I doubt it. What kid doesnt try to put their fingers in the wall outlets? The lady got herself $300,000 by raising her son to be a dumb ass, good job lady. To me this is like the lady that sued the tabacco company because she got cancer from smoking for 30+ years.

  15. So does this mean we all get free sample tranny's on your birthday? :P

    Happy 61

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    A happy birthday is nice but I think for John, he needs a little buttering up. Something like 'you look pretty good for 61. I would have never guessed you a day over 22264 days old. Should get you a free sample. :sml (26):

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