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    Inside the International Sign Association

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    Posted · Edited by County_Signs

    Honestly, there is a distinguishing characteristic which separates talent from hacks...... its quality of image. This isn't a mom and pop neighborhood association..... it the INTERNATIONAL Sign Association.

    Again I ask who are the hacks you describe? Is anyone who does not have a dream office a hack? Tell me is your modest way :pillepalle:

    I guess I am now considered a hack since I bailed on the ISA.... :laughing1: I hope word don't get back to some of the managers of those large city owned sign restores we have done..

    Bravo!

    Inside the International Sign Association

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    What some of you don't know is that the ISA didn't publish this article, nor did they even know it was going to be published. The architect wanted to take some photos for their portfolio and then this came out with ISA's knowledge - so it's not like it's supposed to be a press release by ISA or be representative of every segment of the sign industry.

    Would you rather they still had desks in the hallway?

    Or perhaps these renos would have been OK - no matter the cost - if there was some exposed neon involved?

    I could understand the reaction if ISA themselves promoted their new digs as some tribute to the industry (which they didn't) and left neon out (which they also didn't), but that's not the case and the reaction here seems to come from some inferiority complex or jealousy. There IS neon in the new offices, but I guess some people need a special gold star (or flashing exposed tubes) to make them feel better.

    YYZ,

    It would be a grand thing for the ISA to go back to desks in a hallway. At least they would be working for the industry as whole and not playing a favorites game in light of a money making fad. The ISA originated on quality products of craftsmanship industry wide, not a rubber stamp process of making a Christmas light. LED's do have a place that I do back, just not in every damned section of the industry until they can make good on all their claims.

    The ISA is global, they have censorship. However in this instance censorship played no role and repercussions always happen when something can and will offend some. It is sad that the architect cost them a few members. Yes there is neon there but forgotten to be mentioned. The layman will gladly assume that all the light is LED hence, the LED manufactures love to claim they can replicate the neon glow.

    As for others claims of poster child, I would have to agree in this instance. What product is it that you promote?

    Inferiority complex or jealousy - I highly highly doubt that, I have made my money from both with the mindset they each have their place.

    I guess some people need a special gold star (or flashing exposed tubes) to make them feel better. - Of course you are going to look at it like that, the product type you produce is represented. Sad but true. If you paid as many dues and entry fees as I have over the past 2 decades, you would like to see the main organization give a little credit instead of bandwagon indirectly. All the money that I have put in and a couple of other things that has happened concerning the ISA makes me done with them.

    As for Signtiffic,

    Nerd out much? Jesus man kick it down a few notches. Super intellectual riddles make a pompous air about a person and have a tendency to offend others.

    Chubbs,

    Dammit man! What the hell? LOL Lets just be the guys that are just too smart to even thinking of banging our heads. Because the passion for what we do is to great to allow that thought to come to mind. I think a lot of people are going to wizen up a little when the adage of great artistry and craftsmanship will feed generations and the leaning on a sole product will cause you look forward to the soup line.

    Ignore the over self important....

    Light it up guys, I'm pretty sure I'm now the asshole....

    Inside the International Sign Association

    in General Message Board

    Posted · Edited by County_Signs

    As a member for the better of 2 decades of the ISA. A new to do has been entered on my schedule tomorrow.

    1. Check Email

    2. Return Messages

    3. Go to Bank

    4. Scratch 1. 2. 3. Cancel membership to the ISA Forthwith

    5. Keep my money from Fair Weather Friends - Organizations that don't even offer a glimmer of support in their new digs of a trade (neon) that got them where they are.

    This is a personal opinion. Bash me or like me for it, I am tired of caring since it definitely looks like its everyone for themselves.

    Sad thing is that the Neon to LED is comparable to the plastic sign face scares back in the day. A rebound will happen.

    The ISA should of had at least a little Neo Deco involved somewhere in the photo shoot. I know of several neon guys that have long and gone that are rolling their graves since they dumped a crap ton of money over the years supporting the ISA.

    I guess I may have to wake one morning and kiss that friggin horse...LOL

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