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  1. Come on guys, at least they used light enhancement paint on the the backs. :crazy:

    FYI- If you want a good laugh on LED module pricing go to DHgate.com. A distributor and I were looking up pricing for a good laugh a few weeks ago and found 12 cents per foot modules. Yes, 12 cents per foot. Lead time was something like 3-25 weeks. UL Recognized modules of course.

  2. The Adams machine is the same as the Accubend, you only actually get about 6' of bendable material out of a 10' piece.

    FWIW, you should be able to find someone to slit stainless coil down whatever size you need for around a 1200lb minimum order which may or may not be feasible for you. If you do decide to get coil make sure you get the maximum coil size from your bender that will work on their particular machine and also get a pvc coating on the outside of the coil.

    Don't forget just because you can buy a 26" outside diameter coil and 12" inside diameter coil that it's necessarily a good idea. Coils that weigh too much make for unhappy shop guys. Don't ask how I know this...

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  3. It won't take the sting out of the yearly fee but you should ask your UL field rep about reducing the number of inspections per year if possible. We're labeling way more signs than you are but are "only" subject to eight visits per year. At 12 signs per year I would think your UL rep would be showing up often without you having any product to look at, just documentation/records.

  4. "All over the nation and world there's a safety regulation," Wheeler said. "The Underwriters Laboratory does testing and everything that has the 'UL' symbol means it's safe. All the municipalities throughout the United States require that UL be on signage."

    You serious Clark? :wallbash:

    I'm also picturing something along the lines of what alltex is describing and Paris Signs is labeling them as portable signage.

  5. For the record I voted "What's neon?". :P I think we did two signs with neon last year.

    Our UL reps that visit us are usually very knowledgeable about how neon signs actually work. Of course they do check the components to look for their UL symbol but they also can answer any questions we might have about the "best" way of making something so it both meets their standards but also is installer friendly.

  6. For recycling plastic try Laird or Piedmont or a similar type plastic distributor. They provide the gaylord boxes at no charge.

    For wood pallets and crates the best we've been able to do is get someone to take them for free. Try checking with local suppliers if they need any.

    FYI- We sort it acrylic versus polycarb and clear versus pigmented to get better pricing from them but it's not required.

  7. Try Kachele Group out of New Jersey. They will take care of all necessary calculations with a quick turnaround and without jacking up the price. They will also let you know if something is way overbuilt or on the flip side let you know what needs to change in design to get something up to code.

    1000 Whitehorse Road, Suite 406

    Voorhees, NJ 08043

    Phone: 856-346-7111

    Fax: 856-346-7112

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  8. 22ga x 5" 304 #4 brushed stainless

    .063 x 1.0625" mill finish aluminum in either 3003 or 6061 with a soft temper

    We're looking to buy around 2000lf at a time. The biggest problem is Wrisco, Alumet, etc have very very large minimum orders that just aren't practical for us.

  9. Does anyone have any sources for custom sizes of aluminum and stainless steel channel coil that can process small batches, say 1000lf at a time? We're good on the standard products but are running into problems finding vendors that don't have huge minimum orders, like five year supplies for some of the things we need.

    Thanks

  10. This may help:

    http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=UYMR2.E364597&ccnshorttitle=Sign+Accessories+-+Component&objid=1083425057&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073797451&sequence=1

    My vote would be it's legit

    *In no way do I endorse this product or make claims to it's quality or lack of* I do all of our purchasing and UL stuff here and I've never heard of either company.

  11. But Erik...you can re-use the GTO wire with the Ventex LED system! According to the guy who constantly calls me that savings alone almost pays for the retrofit labor. :crazy:(or at least the sales pitch I get claims that)

    It's so energy efficient the power company will pay you to illuminate the sign!

  12. We're looking for a source for the attached standoffs. So far all of our normal supply houses are coming up dry except for providing the tubes without the set screws, which defeats the purpose of what we are trying to do. Some local machine shops can provide them, but not in great quantities without making a pretty penny off of us, which we obviously prefer not to do, nor is it cost effective to drill and tap them ourselves. Any ideas?

    And it looks like the attachment went bye-bye...

    And it's back. Strange how much better this forum stuff works when one knows what they are doing. :mebe:

  13. We're looking for a source for the attached standoffs. So far all of our normal supply houses are coming up dry except for providing the tubes without the set screws, which defeats the purpose of what we are trying to do. Some local machine shops can provide them, but not in great quantities without making a pretty penny off of us, which we obviously prefer not to do, nor is it cost effective to drill and tap them ourselves. Any ideas?

    1.000 STANDOFF.pdf

  14. GM has paid back the loan to Canada, but the government still has the equity stake they bought. I believe it's the same in the US, where the cash bailout portion has been paid back (something like $6.8 bil?), but the gov't still owns $42 billion worth of the company. It's when they go public with a stock offering that the gov't will make this money back and the longer they wait, the greater the likelihood that the stock offering will actually generate a profit for the shareholders. I think the US gov't owns 60% and Canada 12%.

    As for the signs, I don't see what the issue is. Is GM supposed to act broke until they pay everything back? Who wants to buy cars from a company who acts broke? A lot of car purchases are about image, so GM has to repair theirs and this is the sort of thing that helps do it. Better it's spent on sign companies than newspaper ads, no?

    Touche........................

    My question to you, though, is when is The City of Toronto going to get a real hockey team ??? I thought you guys used to have one. And the Raptors, well, they suck as well. Even us California hockey fans have a Stanely Cup with The Ducks.

    Just kidding...........

    Have a good one.

    Hey! Toronto has a real team finally. The Buds are in 8th place! Or were you referring to the Marlies?

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