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Erik Sine

High Quality Signs In Our Industry & Those Who Produce Them

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High Quality Signs In Our Industry, & Those Who Produce Them.

I’ve made some posts in the past in reference or alluded to the fact that I’m not really in the game anymore, so to speak. I have a good handful of clients who I take care of and I’m pretty much a one man show these days. But...sometimes I get too busy with that along with running this site. So sometimes I have to rely on others, and...I have a hard time with that because, well....I’m so fricken anal with shit and trusting my expectations and standards in the hands of others ( I have higher standards than UL).

So at the last ISA show in Vegas we had a small cozy meet and I relayed to one of my customers that I wanted to use their services for an upcoming job. I wanted to try them out. I knew they made quality work because I’ve been in their facility quite a few times, whether to pop in for a sales call, or sometimes even drop orders off. I’ve known them for some time when a mutual friend introduced us at one of our meets years ago at an ISA Expo when we had a meet & Greet and Dick’s Last Resort in Excalibur. I can even go so far to say that before that intro I had a quick run in with them a few times at a smaller SoCal Show here in San Diego at a CA Sign Association show....errr, Western Sign States Show. So when we were introduced it was a couple of familiar faces, just a little more formal, and over a beer.

So now I’ve had them build some major portions of a few jobs for me.

I’ve...had a my far share of wholesalers in my short 20+ existence. I have to travel about an hour and a half to pick up if I so choose, they even deliver.

If you were to ask me to say one word that best describes them, or use one that I would associate them with, that's easy. I would say........“Pride”.

I’ve used the services of more than I can remember when I’m too busy to perform the normal task of production myself, and most of the time I would only hand part of the task to someone and I would take over or finish it off....it’s that anal part again.

I have to say, when I go to pick up the structure I had them build for me there is that immediate sense of pride on the faces of the fabricators and owners. I’ve been to a few where the job is just another order and the workmanship is.....so so.

I’m talking about RNS Letters out of Corona CA, or Richard’s Neon Shop. Their quality from head to toe and BY far one of the best I have EVER seen, and benefited from.

The owners of RNS, Richard and Sal are themselves very picky, picky about the finished job and they have a tendency to “overbuild”. While so many purposely try to under build to pinch a few pennies here and there, their more concerned with NOT under-performing. They have a few old school fabricators there, and their craftsmanship if you ever use them will speak for itself. When I say old school, I’m talking about building signs with real structures and real neon sign structures. The fabricators build the signs like they themselves are going to install the project, so they have just about every detail as a installer figured out and completed. Things a installer would have never thought about that will make their jobs easier come installation day.

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Pride, you see it in their work, you see it on Richard’s and Sal’s face when you go to pick up your sign, and you see it on their staff’s faces. RNS does a lot of jobs for National Sign Companies when they themselves find themselves too busy, and most of the time their building those signs a lot better. I can’t go into detail on that part, I would like to..... but I can’t, I;’ll just leave it as.......they know what their doing, detail is payed attention to, that part is always fresh in their minds, they perform, and strive for the highest quality BECAUSE they take “Pride”. They take their work and name seriously.

Anyways, Richard, Sal & Company are a great bunch of guys and gals to work with. If you ever have that need for a premium, high grade architectural finish NOT that junkie economy crap where rivets are showing or unpainted, seems showing up etc etc, I'm talking about a job you would enter into Signs Of The Times beauty show contest. They ship all over the US. Give them a try, and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about and here.

Lastly I should mention, their a true FULL service wholesaler. Obviously from their name RNS or Richard’s Neon Shop you know they do Neon, but they have a full paint booth, router, water, plasma cutter, pizza cutter and much more. Not only do they understand and manufacture Neon sign projects, but they also love to use NC LEDs, so that right there tells you ALL you need to know....their building for the long haul not the short time pick up.

The bottom line....whether it’s Neon or LEDs for illumination, you WILL be getting a very bright and long lasting product when you receive it. THEY will make YOU look good!

Here’s a few pics of the first project I had them build for me where I took over and finished it off.

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Done and delivered to me!

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My Second oldest son.

Digging this 5' hole practically himself by hand, well I helped a little bit. This hole we had to dig by hand because the utility companies insisted (Dig Alert) we did because the the pole was sort of close to hitting some things, so. So next time I'm being told to dig by hand I'll have to remember to change the hole from 30" to something much wider because elbow room was impossible, as shown below!

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Install Day!

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I had RNS Letters build everything but the Panels, Graphics and Dimensional Letters, that part I saved for myself on my CNC.

A notable.....RNS also uses Adhesive Systems instead of someone like Lord Adhesives. The difference is when bonding panels to angles and bars for project like these IS, when it dries it dries. You can touch it and it won't be sticky like Lords even well after it's cured, was a fabricator that's important and convenient.

Since this job I'm posting here in this thread, which was installed over the summer. I've had them do a number of my Neon Electric Sign Structures as well when I've been pressed for time. When I get a chance I'll post those too.

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If you're pressed for time, need help, or generally just looking for a wholesale manufacturer to help you out with your projects trust me, I'm picky about finished work....so give them a call and try them out! You won't be disappointed!

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Looks great, but regarding the lords. It is not sticky when it is cured.it is rock solid

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These guys look like the shop I send some of my work to Quality Sign Craft in Willimantic, CT. Another family owned shop with more pride than money. They do great work always ready to help.

On the ASI adhesives. I've been using them more often than Lords too but find they tend to harden in the tube sometimes. Maybe they are getting too hot or cold I'll have to look into it. Last week our shop was 25 degrees and today the tubes were shot my fault for not keeping it warm.

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Nice looking work! Great job for both RNS and you. Are their prices comparable for someone as far away from them like me?? I have a sub need right now actually.

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They ship quite a bit to the east coast so I imagine they are.

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Once you've been exposed to RNS's level of quality, you just can't accept the slop provided by some of the hacks in our industry.

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    • Like new Roland VersaCamm VS640 printer for sale - prints white & metallic inks - it needs a print head, but other than that, it is in immaculate condition.  You can't even tell we have printed on it I have kept it so clean.  I think it is about 7 or 8 years old.  We are getting a new printer, so I have to get this one out of the way before we can set the new printer up.  Will come with all of the RIP Software (Roland VersaWorks)  - Excuse the dirty floor!  Had a large project going on in here so I haven't had time to clean!  LOL             Make me an offer.
    • Most Light Source Suppliers and Manufacturers won't show you examples let alone "numbers" of light readings on Sign Cabinet or Sign Projects from light source components they push like these I'm posting here, but....This is The Sign Syndicate!   "Seeing is believing" as they say.   So, one of the components I've been big on because of feedback and demand is a strong enough LED module that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, isn't proprietary where you need to buy their special clips, brackets, etc, and actually put out enough light without exaggerated "Usable Light" under too far spread spacing that's supposed to save you money that won't compete with other existing signs in the area of your project.    Biggest complaint from sign shops about cabinet LEDs....."I don't want to use a whole bunch of power supplies!"   You want your clients sign to stand out, NOT be lost or drown out by other neighboring signs also competing for attention and visibility.   Most importantly, the BrightON Sunfire LED keeps it simple by allowing custom sign shops not having to pay enormous amounts of money.   I've discussed our upcoming new High-End Sign Syndicate BrightON Sunfire LED for Cabinets, Slim Cabinets, and Large Channel Letters before.  But I've never had an opportunity to back it up with facts by illustration until now.   Let's start with our industry long time standard light source components first.    That is good ol HO T12 Fluorescent Lamps.    Unlike our industry suppliers and manufacturers I'm not going to bash the use of HO Lamps, they work good, and they do last a long time despite their marketing claims of failure just to sell another light source.  There are some very well High-End made HO Lamps for our industry.   Back to the project.   Here we have your typical 4' x 4' x 12" double sided cabinet that we would either see on a pole or mounted on the ground.    3/16" 7328 Plexiglas MC acrylic face.  Using industry standard spacing of lamps at 12" spacing.        HO Lamps 6" in from the sides and 12" from lamp to lamp powered by a energy efficient electronic ballast pulling about 126 Watts         With four HO 4' lamps with 12" spacing we have a average Foot Candle average right on the sign face of 156.5 FC    This is, and has been our industry average for sign surface lighting for DECADES.         Here is our High-End Sign Syndicate BrightON Sunfire  (pronounced just like the city)     A 3 watt LED module with a 170˙ High Uniformity Optics with over 420 lm   Most importantly it's 24V system, and Constant Current.... NOT Constant Voltage.    This system has reduced amperage, heat, and resistance running across it compared to a 12V and it has more voltage head room for long runs.  This calculates to longer life.  On a 24V system this means loading more modules on a 96W power supply than a limited 60w power supply of a 12V system.  Less moving parts on a project the better.     Below and as illustrated we spaced our modules the same as HO Fluorescent Lamps.  6" in, 12" from row to row and one Sunfire Module per foot, spaced 12" apart from one another   One thing I wanted on our Sunfire modules were longer wires between each module.  You have enough wire (15") to jump from row to row without having to splice...less labor involved and it gives you more room to do what other tasks you may need to do with longer wiring.   Using modules like our BrightON Sunfire makes your projects at so much of a lesser cost.  Instead of buying special proprietary clips, tracks and mounting brackets just purchase inexpensive alum 1/16" or 1/8" angles and channel for mounting.  These typically can be bought in 8', 16', and 24' lengths.        The results.....196.5 Foot Candle average on the sign face surface, a 26% brighter face       What makes the BrightON Sunfire even better?   Adding a True Power France Lighting Solution 24V LED Power Supply.  True Power means having the ability to load 100% of a load on a power supply.  As you know most power supplies are asked to load to 80%-85%.  Not so with France, 100% if need be.       Most competing cabinet 12V/24V LED modules will run you anywhere from $7.00 to $15.00 per module.    The BrightON Sunfire will only run you $3.75 per module, giving you NOT "Usable Light" but "Real Competitive Light" as illustrated here.....26% brighter, over above our industry standard lighting of T12 HO Fluorescent Lamps!!      
    • Our 24V France "True Power" Lighting Solution products that will power our Sign Syndicate Brighton LEDs have finally arrived and are now listed up in our Online Shopping Cart.   You'll be able to power up 118 .8watt BrightON II LED Modules on a single 96W France LED Power Supply for all your channel letter and sign cabinet  projects!!!    That means cost savings in using less LED Power Supplies in using a 24V system over a 12V system.    A 24V System also reduces the Amperage, Heat, & Resistance running across your LED Modules over a 12V system   Two HUGE pluses for your projects, High-End, High Efficiency Constant Current 24V BrightON LEDs powered by True Power France Lighting Solutions Engines.
    • The large Outdoor LED display is a high-tech engineering product integrating multi-disciplinary technologies such as electronics, power, computer, communication, information, image processing, optics, materials and structure. The relevant engineering and technical problems in any of these subject areas will affect the final operation of the entire display. A perfect LED display must be an organic combination of multidisciplinary technologies. Led display dot matrix module driver is generally completed by a constant current driver chip. The chip includes a serial shift register, serial-to-parallel conversion and constant current driving and other functional circuit components as shown in Figure 1. The constant current chip is a conversion device that converts the luminance signal of the controller into an appropriate driving current for driving the LED to emit light. The quality factor of the constant current of the constant current device will affect the effective brightness of the LED Display. Especially when the refresh rate of the display screen and the number of display gray levels are higher, the constant current chip will more significantly affect the brightness of the entire display screen. As shown in Figure 1, the supply voltage V-LED of the display will also be one of the important factors affecting the brightness, especially when the voltage is lower than the normal on-voltage of the LED, the LED illumination effect is affected, thus affecting the whole The brightness of the display. In summary, in order to solve the brightness problem in the display application, we can take practical measures including: using high-brightness chips, high light-receiving rate to select indoor rental display, and designing pre-sufficient while ensuring white balance brightness requirements. Appropriate pixel point combination design to ensure reasonable pixel viewing angle, increase the visual contrast of the display through reasonable arrangement and structure design of the lamp; select high-quality constant current driving chip for reasonable driving current And voltage design to ensure efficient driving of LEDs.   Of course, ensuring efficient LED driving requires strong R&D and technical strength. The LED Video industry has grown rapidly in recent years, and has also grown up with a number of excellent display applications and display light source packaging companies, such as display light source packaging. Enterprise--Bai Shi, after years of development and growth, now has its own display R&D lab, dedicated to the research of LED display technology, and a large number of LED display application technologies in the United Nations key research institutes. research work.
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