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Sooner or later top contenders have to duke it out, there's no avoiding it!  Some duck and weave away from a match, others hit it head on.  How long did it take Mayweather and Pacquiao to finally fight?  Too long, and was the wait worth it? 

 

But what would happen if a Light Weight fought a Heavy Weight?

 

Who would win?  Is it all about size?  Or can smaller and quicker win?

 

That's the similar question I had, how would the our smaller 6500K "Reckless 3" that weighs in at just 1.2 watts per module to a bigger, more powered competitor....Principal LED's 7000K Street Fighter "Heavy Weight" that weighs in at 1.32 watts per module.

 

Well, that's the match up, and we'll be having the match over Labor Day Weekend.  Stay Tune for the results!  I think we all might be in for a surprise....or maybe not!

 

 

The Match Up:

 

Interone LED 6500K - 1.14 watts

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NC LED - Reckless 3 6500K - 1.2 watts

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Principal LED Street Fighter - Heavy Weight 7000K True White - 1.32 watts

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***UPDATED

 

It's the end of Labor Day and the results are in.  It is an interesting matchup.

 

 

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The Winner is....... NC LED Reckless 3

 

 

 

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The interesting notes are as follows and very hard to tell from the pictures.  The difference between whites on the acrylic lens surface is, the Principal Street Fighter Heavy Weight has a slight pink hue to it where as the NC LED Reckless appears more True White.

 

The Principal LED Street Fighters are larger in size than the NC LED Reckless hence the name "Heavy Weight"

 

The Principal LED Heavy Weight on average is sold at $81 ($1.80 each) per packed of 45.  The Reckless 3 is sold in trays of 50 at $59.99 ($1.19 each, better jump on this soon!)

 

The NC LED Reckless 3 is IP68, The Principal LED Street Fighter Heavy Weight is IP67.

 

One thing to note, the Principal LED Street Fighter Heavy Weight was slightly handicapped in light output results.  The product is listed as 1.8 modules per foot, and in our display case of 2' x 4" x 5" Deep, technically if we could there should only be 3.6 modules displayed, but of course we cannot figuratively cut the module.  So realistically, even though the Heavy Weight showed 195.50 foot candle surface average, it should be slightly lower.  The NC LED Reckless 3 is two modules per foot.

 

This is one of those accurate situations where you can truly say the NC LED Reckless 3 is "More efficient than" the Principal LED Street Fighter Heavy Weight, because it has a higher light output on the surface and it's doing it for a lesser cost of operation.  Most can't say this!  Most will compare products such as a Maglight and a Penlight and say the Penlight is more efficient because it's using less power, BUT what they don't count is the fact that the Penlight is NO WHERE near the light output as the Maglight

 

This is most likely a result of the high tier Samsung chips and phosphors that we've configured into the system.  I'm not sure what the Principal LED Street Fighter uses.  Like we've seen in the past during out testing Neon lamp manufacturers that use Nichia of Japan Phosphors for their Tri-phosphor lamps over other Tri-lamps are are almost 30% brighter and appear more "White".  Phosphors when it comes to lamps is VERY important.  I'll have to ask what diodes/chips they use for their LED's and update this, last I read their LED's were manufactured in China/Taiwan with some assembly in Texas so it might be a Chinese Chip, but we'll update once we find out  .

 

This is probably one of the most interesting matchup comparison's because of the smaller size powered LED (NC LED Reckless 3) out doing a larger, Principal LED - Street Fighter "Heavy Weight".  

 

Sometimes a Light Weight can beat a Heavy Weight, not all the time....just sometimes.....like she did today.

 

For more information on our NC Reckless LED Line you can visit this LINK

or to direct buy from our online shopping cart LINK

 

 

When you see words like....."Engineered" or"Assembled in America" it's short for saying "Made In China!"  Chinese parts....are STILL Chinese parts!

 

In closing we can proudly say the NC LED "Reckless Line" which is ONLY sold through The Sign Syndicate and not other distributors is........NOT made in CHINA!!!

 

 


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