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Got a job designed by an architect.
The specs are halo lit channel letters.Black face and returns installed to a white eifs background.
My concern is that it will be hard to read,black letters that make a black shadow, especially at a slight angle.
Also concerned that the eifs will absorb the light and not make decent halo.
I'm thinking of proposing white or brushed letters mounted to a dark colored panel.
What do you think?

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If I'm reading you right, for the Black faces on a white background I would go with white returns.  Make it two-tone

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Thanks Erik,

I see it all the time faces and returns the same color.Looks black streaks.Really bad on small chucky letters.White or light colored cans is best.

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The white Halo on the white EIFS should be OK, if they LED's, spacing from wall and the proper difuser back to prevent hot spots from the LED's. I am also not clear if the balck faces are Opaque or are they Black Perforated vinyl to light up white also? If so that does not make for a very good night time look in my opinion..

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Took some digging.  But thought this might help apply for your project

 

Here is two Day/Night Projects with dark or near black faces

 

 

This is Ideal

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This is not to Ideal and hard to read in angles.  The property manager wouldn't allow the returns be white

 

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This is all black reverse and returns are 2" or 1.5".  Better for all black if you have to do them that way like we did, but still ideally white returns would have been better.  

 

 

 

As Jacob mentioned on LEDs...I'm sure you already know but thought I'd mention for readers...point them in the pan for light dismemberment

 

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oh and, LoL.  If you want any suggestions on kick ass White LEDs for your lighting try ours. 24V, much better than 12V and ours are so bright and efficient!  Your customer will love you for it!

http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/9088-that-bright-halo-illumination/

 

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