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  1. 4 points
  2. 4 points
    So, I've been meaning to post this, so what better time than while it's fresh in my head. I get these from time to time....I think I've mentioned it a couple of times, or maybe I haven't. I received a email shortly after the ISA show from a National Sign Company we were at. Their known for their.....not so good payment schedule. In short they asked me to remove the content about their company on my board, and that it was for the most part untrue, and in most cases under normal circumstances most are paid by 60 days. I'm not going to mention the name of the company, it's not important and email exchange was short. It appears that it all sparked from whatever happened at the ISA Show. I'm not sure if possibly they were a company that took part at the meet and greet, or it was brought up in other ways, maybe over a dinner meeting. Anyhow, my response was basically that if you stick to your promised payment schedule then there shouldn't be any issues. Issues usually happen when companies promise terms then go over that. I also let them know that if they're doing business in states like California (which they are), by law subs have to be paid in 30 days. I also let them know that executing contracts and subbing installs and service work in states like CA is illegal if they do not have a contractors license in those states. In a reply I asked why they go beyond 30 days in the first place. In states like mine (CA) it's the responsibility of the General Contractor to obtain a line of credit to pay Subcontractors if need be, NOT use subs as a line of credit and only paying them once THEY get paid....which in states like CA is also illegal. IN fact in order to get a contractor license in my state you have to have a certain amount of cash flow in your bank account, and you must be bonded ($15K last I looked) which a consumer or sub can go after for unpaid bills or as a fix Lastly in that same reply, I also relayed the fact that it's ridiculous that some Nationals ask Subcontractors that work for them to sign away their lean rights. ( I didn't aim this question at them because I didn't know if they require this, but i just mentioned it as lately it seems like a normal thing to get a sub to sign). Though I doubt a judge would even abide by that as even that is illegal in my state and why there are preliminary lean notices before project work and lean release once paid by subs Well, that's where communication pretty much stopped. I'm posting this because it seems that what we are doing here, coming together and opening up a line of communication about one of our industry's biggest problem IS having an impact....clearly. It hasn't been the first email or call I've received from an unhappy National. At the ISA Shows, I'll say it's thee biggest compliment we get in passing or by those that meet with us is the National Sign & Service Install Review Forum, and having the courage to host such a thing on the Sign Syndicate. My point is this. It's probably the most active used part of this site, but by those who just use it, they need to participate in it more actively rather than just read what someone else wrote about a particular company they may be checking up on. More need to actually participate and give their own feedback for others as well and not be so passive...reciprocate the help. Keep updating your experiences with these companies, whether it's positive or negative, because obviously.....everything we have been doing here is working for our industry
  3. 3 points
    there's always a surprise inside
  4. 3 points
    BTW this is a nationwide epidemic getting skilled labor and people that will work.
  5. 3 points
    Frustrated 1st thing in the morning leaves the entire day to really get pissed off. When people ask me " How many employees do you have working for you " ? I answer " About half " That is the reality of being a business owner If this was easy, everyone would do it.
  6. 3 points
    Yes this is very sad to everyone. The " Good Guy " just trying to do the right thing. The other issue is .........These Message Center Sign Companies who sell to the General Public. ( The Florida Specials ) They advertise and sell directly to the Schools, Churches and Public. They sell the sign and send them the 15 Minute Video on how to install it. " You can do it " advice.
  7. 3 points
    Sooner or later they (employees) always take advantage of a great situation. I allow my employees to build small projects for themselves, not for resale. If they need something for their kids team, a B Day, Anniversary... I'm cool with that. I let them work on their vehicles, borrow a trailer and truck to move. But when it comes to money, regardless of the amount. If it's happening in my shop, it's my money.
  8. 2 points
    = we have a service opportunity in your area that requires a 2 man bucket truck and a NTE of $250, and oh now we will pay you in 90+ or not at all
  9. 2 points
    your customer, your problem. I deal with you, you owe me.
  10. 2 points
    Very nice Paul! I would have kept the Sirens>>>> 🙂
  11. 2 points
    I am a good installer, so I hired myself =0) Been doing it for 6 yrs now. Started supporting all the local sign shops, got so busy I had to convince my dad to retire from the postal service and work for me. Now I'm grooming my son an nephew! Fully agree with going outside the industry. I started life as a mechanic. I love being an installer because no one is ever sad to see the sign guy show up and get to work bringing their business to life! After getting a look into the back door of several sign companies I see the issues they face and feel for them....but I also see some self inflicted wounds. Installers tend to be the end of the whip and have to make up for all of the timing issues through out the project. Its hard to want to work hard when your not set up for success. There are a few sign companies with killer processes (sales all the way through end of project fully mapped out) and have seen great success with hiring, training and retaining sign installers.
  12. 2 points
    It is very simple. Pay your Invoices when the job is completed and agreed on. Without the Sub Contractor Sign Companies, The Nationals FAIL. There are many Nationals who pay well and pay on time. GREAT JOB ERIK,
  13. 2 points
    I think he's jokingly referring to the National Sign Co meet and greet If only ISA checked out the credit history of those National Sign & Service companies that they have attend their function, and of course stop handing out long time achievement awards to them, especially since they continue to poorly pay their subcontractors on various projects around the country. If only...
  14. 2 points
    it's a shame that Michaels would allow this, someone should send it to corporate
  15. 2 points
    As a wholesaler we here it almost every day.....So and so used to sell it to us for..... Yes and thats why they are out of business. I am so glad I dont do retail work as the asshole customers will drop you for 20 bucks for the bucket truck guy above. I wish he would have just been another lawn mowing company. In a few months he will be gone and a real shop will have to go back a fix his fix.
  16. 2 points
    This is a no win for the owner. Yes I allow my employees to make their own projects for their own usage. They can do it on their time only They let me know before they start and tell me what it is for and what they are going to use. In General, I have no real concerns or problems. If it keeps everyone happy, so be it. Here is the problems........ It amazes me how fast they get their work completed, start to finish. Why cant they do my work as fast ? I let them use everything and anything they need to. Complete access to everything. I ask that they pay for all new materials, ( Sometimes ) Otherwise I hope they use scraps if they can When they have to reach into their pockets to pay, it becomes a fight on material costs. Ask about Labor Costs and they will tell how many minutes they used. Forget about any damages to my equipment, Don't go there because it would have happened at anytime. You cant win on this subject. When I see them abuse the " Benefits " I stop it.
  17. 1 point
    Brain, I would check out this National Sign & Service Forum (Link Below) for MC & Icon, there's been some interesting developments with their contract structures
  18. 1 point
    Have you had any luck getting paint to stick to the edges of alum composite? what are you using?
  19. 1 point
    I was always under the impression that the mass produced neon signs where pushed through a die and made. I had no idea they where actually hand made. thanks for sharing.
  20. 1 point
    I split these posts off to create it's own topic because it's far too interesting to get lost in the shuffle in a LED discussion. Those are some awesome pics Frank, thanks for sharing those....oh and by all means I don't think anyone here can get tired from hearing about Neon!
  21. 1 point
    Hi guys hope a bunch from here are going to the Tri State Sign Expo August 8th - 10th. We will have a booth #125 . Be sure to come to the Auction and Banquet on Friday and always a great time at the pool party after the show. https://tristatesignexpo.com/
  22. 1 point
    Paul; Your statement " When I asked why would anyone want to work with your company knowing that you do not pay until you are paid ? I also asked how do we know if you are paid or not paid from your customer ? " You are exactly on point. How the hell do I know for sure when you have been paid? This comes after being so stupid that I would agree to be paid when paid in the first place. I just received a query from "FacilitySource" to become a contractor. They have just been consumed by CBRE (Coldwell Banker Richard Ellis), a large player in the real estate/ real estate management area. I received a solicitation sheet from them and I won't even insult the intelligence of those on this venue by posting it. The response section was very definite but the payment portion was somewhere out in the Cosmos. You could be paid only if they got paid and then pay you at some mysterious date in the future. They had a list of discounts that they wanted to take under circumstances that were totally unverifiable. You also had to sign away all rights as a contractor while shielding them from everything. Incredible............ But if I were to sign this nonsense, I would be getting exactly what I deserve. Just for the record, they intimated that they wanted me to provide service to Lowe's, along with some other familiar major accounts in my area. I politely refused the offer but thought to myself that if a person made me an offer like this to my face I would have dispensed justice with a broken car antenna right on the spot. Peace out!
  23. 1 point
    This is a first ever trial run. Use link below or use the main horizontal menu header above "PHOTO COMPETITION" http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/competition/ The rules are simple. One entry per member, up to 8 votes per member. Please don't search the internet for pictures, please use your own that you captured around town or during a job. It's the first and a trial run, we'll figure out a 1st place price. This ends August 8th 2019 Please do not Photoshop pictures. The Contest: FUNNIEST SIGN PHOTO This is the Funniest Sign Photo "Contest" that has to do with a sign in the photo. The way it looks, the content, the shape it is in, or perhaps something that happened to it. No Photo shopping. Please no searching the internet for photos, it should be your own that you captured around town
  24. 1 point
    I just have to say - NOW I have seen it all. Check this out! You can't make this stuff up. My guys found this yesterday!
  25. 1 point
    Where do you start, First thing, those Fluorescent Pig Tail Bulb in the letters is just a treat to see, then the LED Light bulbs, that is just pure GENIUS, but the recycled Neon Letters, that is pure cheapness at it's finest. What the Hell has our industry come to, when this is what is becoming the norm and not the exception. Now looking back at these, I am truyly speechless and that is saying something, I am rarely speechless.
  26. 1 point
    Nah, it's international. For over 30 years I employed staff, average was around five to seven people including myself. Many were long term. For the past five years it's just me and I could not be more content and now I get to pick and choose who I work for and the jobs I take on. No more stress, no more staff. GC
  27. 1 point
    Now Hiring Experienced Sign Installers and Service Techs in Tyler Texas *SIGN ON BONUS* *LOWER COST OF LIVING* *AWARD-WINNING SCHOOLS* Do you have previous sign installation experience? Are you a highly motivated and safety conscious individual? Are you looking for a career with an established and fast-growing company? If so, we’re looking for talented and professional candidates who are focused on teamwork, task completion, and customer satisfaction. If you're looking for a rewarding career, not just another job, then come join our team as a Sign Installation Specialist! Design Center Signs a Comet Signs Company is one of the largest and fastest growing signage and graphics firms in Texas located in in the beautiful piney woods area of East Texas. Now part of the Comet Signs family, our resources and opportunities have accelerated our success even more! We need SIGN INSTALLERS and SERVICE TECHNICIANS to join our award-winning team in Tyler. Ideal candidates will have the following prior experience, including: mobile crane operation, sign installation, electrical maintenance, welding, valid CDL class A, ability to pass drug test and background check. Journeyman Electrician (or Sign Electrician) license is a plus. We offer competitive pay, insurance, vacation, paid holidays and workers comp. SIGN ON BONUS (and possible relocation assistance) for those that want a career and are ready to go to work! If you like fishing, hunting and recreation of all types near lakes, forests and hills, this is one of the most picturesque places in the state to call home. Comet Signs, LLC offers the following benefits: Medical, Dental, Vision, and Life 401k with match PTO 7 Holidays Referral Incentives Competitive compensation depending on experience To apply: Email responses are encouraged with attached resume robin.patterson@cometsigns.com In persons at 3245 W. Grande Blvd. Tyler, Texas 75703 Monday -- Friday 8am -- 4pm Fax resume to 210-341-7279 We are an EOE employer.
  28. 1 point
    Ah, the old "you can't get good help these days" song. I sing it, my father sang it, Moses (no relation though my kids think that he apprenticed under me) probably sang it too. Yes, good installers are hard to find. The good ones have steady jobs and aren't interested in talking to you. The bad ones will tell you that they have worked for this shop (but got laid off), for that shop (which closed down), that other place (fired this time for using the company CC*), cut trees for a few years, spent time in jail (or rehab or on the lam from a wife or..). Hmm, but can you give a guy a 2nd chance? Don't you mean 22nd? It's an uphill battle. Paul - I love that comment. However, at times I think half is being generous. UFB - LOVE LOVE LOVE that graphic. * - relative of my wife really did get fired for running up "ONLY $2500.00" on the company CC for personal expenses and seriously couldn't understand why he got canned, and why he ended up in court. He would have paid it back eventually. SIGH.
  29. 1 point
    And then companies have the balls to tell Grey haired old farts that they are old and stupid. Right on only one point...
  30. 1 point
    "...about half..." When I visit local shops, it's entertaining to see the ones that have bounced around from shop to shop and think to myself *oh boy*. They're the ones that give owners the headache. They have bad habits..bad work ethic, probably never learned the right way, you can't teach an old dog new tricks, they find ways to stretch the clock, and now they're at a new shop repeating what happened at other places of employment
  31. 1 point
    Everything should function normal if not better. If anyone has any issues please contact me or reply here Thanks! Erik
  32. 1 point
    C'mon Erik.....Everyone knows that TCI Paint & Supply is in Turks and Caicos!! Geez man do you live under a rock?
  33. 1 point
    I agree with you about companies that install signs without a permit. They are just hoping the check clears before the City notices it ... then they can start blocking the customer's calls. It happens. The City of Dallas Chief Building Official was talking to me about four weeks ago about a company that installed a big LED sign right off the highway without getting a permit. The City has restricted LED signs quite a bit (in a ridiculous manner, if you ask me) and this LED sign was not legal under the current ordinance. He wanted my opinion on what it would take to pull the sign down. I came across another one on the southern part of the City where we needed to change a face on the sign and I was shocked that they were ever allowed to install the sign so close to the property line. So I pulled an Open Records request (it's easy to do in Dallas) and found they never did pull a permit. Yet another time, in Arlington, I was called out to service a neon sign (this was a few years ago) and when I got there everything was exposed, no conduit, etc. Well, Arlington does on-site inspections so I called the Inspector (great guy, we've dealt with him for years and he's always been incredibly helpful) and asked him how this managed to pass inspection. He told me they never got a permit in the first place. The part that bothers me the most is if that customer came to me asking for a sign I wouldn't get the order because I know I can't permit it. The dishonest guy gets the order but the customer ultimately pays the price.
  34. 1 point
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jChO41M8SI&t=315s Not sure how they collected all these sign fails but thanks for the laughs.
  35. 1 point
    Many towns now require landscaping and irrigation plans from a landscape architect (specifically for the monument sign) along with the plans for the monument sign before zoning will approve sign. Nobody said sign company has to pay for it, that is part of the conditions portion of your contract where you point out the extras they will need to pay for additionally like the City Fees for review and inspections.
  36. 1 point
    Hate to say it guys but thinking like you are a snitch or rat is why these assholes are taking your work. Enforcement starts with the ligit sign companies. If you don't call it in because you're a p_____, that is why they are everywhere. Cities are not set up to bust balls because there isn't a budget for it. Code compliance for example just needs a complaint filed and they will be happy to investigate. Morons that install signs without permits look next door to see what the criteria is and then proceed to do it wrong because they are just copying the other illegal. Stores would pay a dogcatcher to fix their sign if he was cheap enough.
  37. 1 point
    Thats because a “service coordinations company” called and said we will give you 300 shinny bucks NTE
  38. 1 point
    That is horrific, Heartbreaking. I Pray the Lord Jesus bless the boy for the rest of his days.
  39. 1 point
    This is the perfect illustration of why this business is in the shape that its in
  40. 1 point
    Forget the 4 x 8 Cry once and smile for the next 20 years Pay the price only one time and Buy a 5 x 10 MultiCam and never look back or worry. My MultiCam is 15 plus years old and only 2 service calls were required.
  41. 1 point
    Building another New SX 62 Manitex by STAMM Buying a new truck requires a lot of planning and designing with the Manufacturer. Everything is custom made to our needs. It is all photographed and documented for future service and repairs if needed. A good relationship is needed and complete trust is required Same qualities are needed for buying used equipment from a reputable company Stay with the big Named Companies and you will get satisfaction and reliability.
  42. 1 point
    Steve is right it is a ABC flex system. They are out of Fort Collins, Co. https://www.abcsignproducts.com/extrusion/retro-frames
  43. 1 point
    I looks like It is ABC. Looks like their keeper and tensioner.
  44. 1 point
    Dave, how bout you drive it another 4k miles for me. At 22k less per thousand miles, you could pay me to drive it away? Can't believe you still have it.
  45. 1 point
    We stopped doing this years ago on the recommendation of our insurance carrier. We were advised if the employee is injured when in our shop we would be subject to workmen's compensation. It did not matter if they were on the clock or not.
  46. 1 point
    I would have no problem with personal projects, but I wouldn't allow projects for profit, you're fitting all the overhead and more.
  47. 1 point
    Spray glue your patterns onto Coroplast and drill tap cons right thru it where the letters are. Make sure sure that your letters will cover your drilled out holes No tape or worries about the pattern moving or ripping. Coroplast is waterproof and a solid light weight material. Use it over and over until you can use it anymore
  48. 1 point
    Thanks Rocco! I like the idea of the tape to make a hem and then staples. We have done the cardboard trick with tapcons as well.
  49. 1 point
    Keith, Make them pay upfront. Then there are no problems and they are a great customer
  50. 1 point
    Electronic would be great IF there are no issues that affect electronics. Personally I'd stay with a core and coil, France. Look up sign suppliers in your area, they usually sell to anyone. Be sure and unplug before changing, don't break the neon, and consider changing the electrode boots, if using, to new ones while doing the work. If you break the neon, you are SOL.
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