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saneon

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    GE...SHOW ME THE MOOOOONEY!!!

    I don't even know where to begin with this "Save The Tree's" :treehugger: article.

    GE, please show me the true numbers on how you are saving Holiday Inn $4 Million dollars annually. You build good long lasting products, but you're also the most expensive. You are making comparisons to neon and Fluorescent lamps for light sources in existing and new signs

    Significantly more??? No! Where do you get 2,300 more trees per year? There are more trees in America now than there were when the horse and buggy made their way westward. Now GE is saving the planet?

    Nice Scare tactic marketing pitch "containing no lead, mercury or glass." Everything about neon & fluorescents are 99.99% recyclable and reused. As a lamp company you already know this.

    Again I will post a snipit from a previous thread on Energy Savings from Honesty in Trade Magazine Articles, Part II

    19 million feet of Tetra? $513,000,000.00 at $27 a foot, vs $109,250,000.00 in higher quality Tri-Phosphor lamps CCFL lamps. Holiday Inn is paying $403,750,000.00 for GE's Tetra over Neon.

    Annual Power consumption $.12 KWH (Depending on climate)

    GE: $22,160,291.10

    Neon: $31,195,611.40

    GE saves $9,000,000 in annual energy over Neon. BUT, Leaving a surplus of $403,750.000 in costs by going GE Tetra LED over Tri-Phoshpor Neon

    In costs for the LED vs Neon, Holiday Inn will break even in 41 years if they don't re-brand and don't retrofit way past the 50,000 hour claim just to make up the annual energy cost savings.

    I know these are very, very rough estimates, If I'm wrong on this, PLEASE tell me where I'm wrong and correct me.

    The positive side to this? A bunch of sign companies are making the dough $$$$ for all the re-branding & retrofits from the Stimulus package that Holiday Inn is funding for itself. So we won't hear from those sign companies here on this matter. What are you gonna do, bite the hand that feeds you.

    Do the claims of these LED companies regarding energy savings go completely unchallenged ? Bogus claims of enormous enegy savings nearly cost me a large resort expansion project here in Orlando. If you google "caliper summary report" click on doe solid-state lighting caliper program , go to round 6 of product testing. Here you will find results of testing done by Pacific Northwest National Laboratory for the US Department of Energy. Their findings shed some light on all of the LED bullshit. "A preponderance of inaccurate and misleading performance claims" ia a statement straight out of the report. pg.18.

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