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By Erik Sine
We have always been proud supporters of our Electric Sign Trade and have always been proactive in doing what it takes to help preserve our Trade and it's most valued tradition....that being Neon.
Despite the misinformation that has been put out about Neon for decades now, Neon is very much a light/energy efficient light source and the most durable light source we have in our trade over time and we have plenty of case history to support this.
WATCH OUT
As most of you may or may not know, there has been a huge shortage of the availability of Glass Neon Housings for Neon....and what has been available has been a lot of Chinese Fake UL Marked (Embossed on the glass) Neon Housings in the market for some time.
They Claim a UL mark, BUT...they aren't a U.L. Recongnized accessory or sign component .i.e. SSI / "Neo" Glass Housings have no valid listing with fake embossed UL Emblem
The biggest complaint for some time has been the threads are terrible and it made tightening at times near to impossible. The other bad aspect was that the glass walls were too thin, and with just a little bit of heat they were cracking or a incidental drop bump might cause them to crack and break prematurely, some simply cracked on tightening mechanically to a sign body .
Also, it's bad news if you're a Wholesale Shop or Custom Sign Shop integrating these knock-offs into your signs. It's passing along a fake listed product and should something happen like a "fire" I can't imagine Insurance Companies will be too happy about the use of a "knock-off"
I've done my best in the past to look for and supply vintage housings that were listed for the Neon Arts and help with keeping that art going with Porcelain or older glass housings which we still do have plenty of (#100's & #300's). But now we have those hard to get components to keep those awesome Neon Open Faced Channel Letters and Wall Signs going without running into shortages of components or options.
NOW IN STOCK - Westrim U.L. Recognized Sign Accessories #100, #200, #200P, #300 Neon Glass Housings
You can Purchase these from our store or contact us to place an order or inquiry (858) 880-1400 | orders@thesignsyndicate.com
NOW IN STOCK - Westrim U.L. Listed #100, #200, #200P, #300 Neon Glass Housings
You can Purchase these from our store or contact us to place an order or inquiry (858) 880-1400 | orders@thesignsyndicate.com
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By Erik Sine
Like everywhere else if you're very fortunate to be busy during this shut down, some business's are still willing to upgrade their branding in these slow depressing times
We removed some outdated retail signage and upgraded them to their current look.
I know, this is normally just an average channel letter sign....*Yawn*......but what's unique is the lighting system that powers it at night.
The Illumination?
BrightON II 24v constant current NOT constant voltage ....LEDs instead of the industry typical 12v LEDs for half the amperage across the wire and components which translates to less heat, resistance, and in return a MUCH better system for dependability. Not even to mention just how much light for very little power you get from the super high efficient BrightON II Chips with the added 175˙ high efficiency optics. Another advantage of 24V is the typical single channel power supplies are 96W, which means you can et LOTS of LED modules on a single power supply (less parts, less problems) which leads me to the next part...
The system doesn't stop at the LEDs, it continues with France Lighting Solutions "True Power" LED Power Supplies. The Electric Sign industries unique and sole 100% load Power Supplies, no not 85%, not 80%.....100%. 5 year Labor / 5 Year Parts. If you've been in this industry long enough I don't even need to mention what "France" products mean....it mean Longevity & Dependability...just the BrightON II LEDs
Front and Rear illuminated channel letters. France Westrim Pattern Paper
15" thick Tilt-Up Wall with plenty of rebar, WOOOHOOO!!
France Lighting Solutions Power Supplies of course. The Atlas series with diagnostic LED lamp
The Finished Day Look
The Night Finished Look.
For typical 5" deep return channel letters with front illumination light output measured right on the face for decent or as most LED MFG's like to say..."usable light"... if you have a light meter on hand ....."usable light" is right around 150 - 165 Foot Candles....that's just your typical even lighting number.
The BrightON II at full stretch already exceeds that and with fewer modules compared to competitors using higher powered LED modules. This set right here gave us an average of 213 Foot Candles right on the face despite the light loss coming out of the rear. Brighton LEDs are "Competitive Light"...NOT "Usable Light"
In the end?
The client letting me know that they are VERY happy and that the sign looks AWESOME.
These are the types of signs you flash to potential clients....Bright, Dependable, & Happy Reviews by Happy Customers. If this sign was in a shopping center the light output alone would stand out, and far above other competing signs.
The Recipe:
Autohaus Plexiglas MG
3M Translucent Films
BrightON II 24v LEDs
France Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies
Westrim Burroughs Pattern Paper
Plasco Trim Cap
Paige Wall Busters
3/16" Polycarbonate Plaskolite
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By Erik Sine
Anyone have a good source for purchasing butcher / Pattern paper for plotters? Need something thick.
Thanks
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I think it's a combination of other shops telling them they don't have time to the PM's thinking the quote is too high. I'd throw the high number at them and see if they bite
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I just got another of those dreaded "need a quote on a large project by EOD tomorrow" emails. It's a full rest stop worth of signs to be installed (several weeks work) on the turnpike and a job that I'd love to get. The customer sent it after hours yesterday and wants a price back by EOD tomorrow. Even if I had nothing else going on, I'd want at least 2-3 days to give an accurate quote. For example, I'm sure to have questions that would need to be answered about the drawings they sent. OK, enough of a rant. My real question is, why do these large companies wait until the last possible moment to send out an RFQ for a large project? I've always thought that it's because they got pricing they didn't like from their normal vendor(s) and are hoping to get a last minute cheap price. I'm not accusing anyone of trying to catch someone unprepared, but they had to know this quote date was coming up. Yes I could just throw a high number at this job but that never works out. Thoughts? Thanks!
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