By Erik Sine
I may have made mention of it in certain posts but never a single topic all to it's own. I've had some inquiries here and there, but yes, NC LED is no more.
For the last couple of years it was hard to get NC LED to make modifications to existing lines or create new ones. NC was becoming a very stubborn company bent and dictated their product line to European sales. They had open ears at one time, but over time....well.
High performance & High End demand for LEDs is so much more, and so different than European standards.
So, slowly over time I became frustrated with NC LED. All they wanted to do was push existing lines and NOT change with the times, or demand, or for American demand...we became 2nd tier. I'm not striving to be 2nd tier or 2nd place....
This is one of the main reasons why we took the modifications we wanted to make into our own line.
The BrightON Line is just so much more improved over the Reckless NC LED line that we promoted here.
The Reckless NC LED line that we dedicated here was top of the line and ahead of it's time....at one time....and that time is long gone.
With the BrightON line the user can get more linear light per string, better chip efficiency and get more light per watt, and at 24v the amperage is cut in half, you have lesser resistance and heat running across the system than you would with a 12v system...and have a wider 175˙ true optic lens over a 120˙ Korean module. The Korean typical wide optics for a supposed 140˙ lens was just a diffused lens...nothing more...nothing special. Sure the light spread more, but it was dimmer, it was like taking your hands and choking someone...it was just a matter of dispersing the pinpoint light, you might as well put a piece of diffuser film over the Korean clear lens.
From what I'm told the NC LED Plant in Vietnam is closed. The plant in Korea is mainly closed and the company is under re-organization greatly in part due to the China Flu.
I'm not sure what NC LED American in NY is doing, I hear it's just a matter of getting rid of depleted constant voltage NOT Constant Current LED stock, and that they may be selling some other LEDs from a company in Korea.
Whatever stock we have left is limited. We can special order modules to match up whatever may have been put out before by users, but again it's special phone in order only.
Our new and improved is our BrightON LED Line and it WILL change with the times keeping current with our American creativity that knows no bounds or ceiling. That's what we strive for, high-end products for high-end shops. There are plenty of cheap LED modules one can find on Amazon, Ebay, or Alibaba that we have been shocked to find out shops have been using them for their clients...but High-End Signage is not their forte, and best not to compete with that market and longevity is not their standard.
Anyhow, thought I would spread the news about NC LED after getting so many inquiries lately
BrightON LED Line Topics
By Erik Sine
**OUTDATED POST & INFORMATION**
Our Current New & Improved LED Technology LED MODULE is the BrightON LED Series
More Light per Watt, Longer Life, Lesser Modules & Cost... located Here
I'm quite impressed....
So I'd like to introduce our newest addition to our family. The NC White Horse Nano!
These lil suckers are BRIGHT as hell. Their about .4 watts each, True White high quality tier/grade 6500K Samsung Diodes.
Their approx 5 mini modules per foot, they come in 100 module strings and you get about 25' per string....and as you can see, 3 diodes per module, and just like it's bigger brother "The White Horse" their 160˙ wide angle modules.
But, because their so small, these only come in constant voltage NOT constant current. The upside is, these are lower wattage modules.
So many possibilities with these high quality modules that are small, yet pack a BIG punch of light...DAMN!
The good news is, their only $82.99 per string of 25'......The bad news is, there was a miscommunication and they only sent us 20 bags, but more are on the way.
P.S.- NOT made in CHINA!!!
NC LED 's are generally pretty small anyway, especially the Reckless-2, but as a visual the White Horse Mini is significantly smaller!!!
With Great Channel Letter Benders like the SDS/AdamsTech Machines out there creating some small 8" to 5" Letters, below are a few LED moduldes for visual layout purposes. Tot he far Left we have our NC White Horse Nano, and NC Reckless-2 to the right of it. The Reckless-2 can work as well but imagine if this letter just just a little bit smaller. Visualize the other components needed for in conjunction with the poly-carbonate backs. The tab support for the aluminum pan letters, the peg stand-offs and well as the secondary wiring hole.
Larger modules don't make sense for these small tight letters. With the White Horse Nano's, having that extra room to move modules around makes more sense along with more even lighting than using long or larger modules. With the White Horse Mini's you won't struggle with letter assembly.
Everything you would expect from our NC Reckless & White Horse LED Line
You can purchase these from our online shopping cart
By Erik Sine
Like everywhere else if you're very fortunate to be busy during this shut down, some business's are still willing to upgrade their branding in these slow depressing times
We removed some outdated retail signage and upgraded them to their current look.
I know, this is normally just an average channel letter sign....*Yawn*......but what's unique is the lighting system that powers it at night.
BrightON II 24v constant current NOT constant voltage ....LEDs instead of the industry typical 12v LEDs for half the amperage across the wire and components which translates to less heat, resistance, and in return a MUCH better system for dependability. Not even to mention just how much light for very little power you get from the super high efficient BrightON II Chips with the added 175˙ high efficiency optics. Another advantage of 24V is the typical single channel power supplies are 96W, which means you can et LOTS of LED modules on a single power supply (less parts, less problems) which leads me to the next part...
The system doesn't stop at the LEDs, it continues with France Lighting Solutions "True Power" LED Power Supplies. The Electric Sign industries unique and sole 100% load Power Supplies, no not 85%, not 80%.....100%. 5 year Labor / 5 Year Parts. If you've been in this industry long enough I don't even need to mention what "France" products mean....it mean Longevity & Dependability...just the BrightON II LEDs
Front and Rear illuminated channel letters. France Westrim Pattern Paper
15" thick Tilt-Up Wall with plenty of rebar, WOOOHOOO!!
France Lighting Solutions Power Supplies of course. The Atlas series with diagnostic LED lamp
The Finished Day Look
The Night Finished Look.
For typical 5" deep return channel letters with front illumination light output measured right on the face for decent or as most LED MFG's like to say..."usable light"... if you have a light meter on hand ....."usable light" is right around 150 - 165 Foot Candles....that's just your typical even lighting number.
The BrightON II at full stretch already exceeds that and with fewer modules compared to competitors using higher powered LED modules. This set right here gave us an average of 213 Foot Candles right on the face despite the light loss coming out of the rear. Brighton LEDs are "Competitive Light"...NOT "Usable Light"
In the end?
The client letting me know that they are VERY happy and that the sign looks AWESOME.
These are the types of signs you flash to potential clients....Bright, Dependable, & Happy Reviews by Happy Customers. If this sign was in a shopping center the light output alone would stand out, and far above other competing signs.
Autohaus Plexiglas MG
3M Translucent Films
BrightON II 24v LEDs
France Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies
Westrim Burroughs Pattern Paper
Plasco Trim Cap
Paige Wall Busters
3/16" Polycarbonate Plaskolite
By Erik Sine
Our 24V France "True Power" Lighting Solution products that will power our Sign Syndicate Brighton LEDs have finally arrived and are now listed up in our Online Shopping Cart.
France Lighting Solutions True Power LED Power Supplies are the Electric Industries ONLY Power Supply you can load to 100%....not 85%...not 80% like most....BUT 100%. That means more LED Modules per Power Supply and of course a higher rated Power Supply
You'll be able to power up 120 .8watt BrightON II LED Modules on a single 96W France LED Power Supply for all your channel letter and sign cabinet projects!!!
That means cost savings in using less LED Power Supplies in using a 24V system over a 12V system.
A 24V System halves the Amperage reducing the Heat, & Resistance running across your LED Modules over a 12V system which improves liability to your system
Two HUGE pluses for your projects, High-End, High Efficiency Constant Current 24V BrightON LEDs powered by True Power France Lighting Solutions Engines.
By Erik Sine
Introducing our new Sign Syndicate BrightON II LED module. It's the newest all around LED Module for your Channel Letter, Sign Cabinet, and Linear Lighting needs.
BrightON, pronounced like the city
Just like our BrightON Sunfire LED Module, the II is just as unique.
The BrightON II rids the need for shops having to stock a 2 and 3 Diode Module for different size lettering. The BrightON II meets or exceeds the performance of most 3 Diode LED Modules on the market with our Maximum performance efficiency at 24V
The BrightON II LEDs are under driven for Improved Thermal Performance
Through all the various testing we have done here on the Sign Syndicate when it came to Neon or LED illuminated channel letter testing as well as feedback from customers who purchase our NC Reckless LED Line. When it comes to illuminating signs, there is a divide between, Very Bright / Competitive Lighting / Usable Light.
Competitive Light begins around the 170+ Foot Candles on a sign face surface, Brighter Light 190 FC+ and above. Anything under 150 Foot candles is just Usable, or Acceptable light.
To date, our BrightON II is the most efficient LED module in it's class in light output per power given.
Below are some our biggest competitors that we all see from cover to cover advertised in monthly paid brochure trade magazines. For our own purposes we've limited it to two, because.....they have been the most marketed and we can't help but turn a corner in this industry and there they are, an ad to tell us how great they are. Also listed, we have our NC Reckless LED Line.
The test channel are 4" x 2'. Same as our Great White Hope II Test. 4" tall because our industry standard has usually been, anything (stroke) beyond 4" will require another stroke of Neon, or LED Row.
The Hanley PE-4 is a 4 diode module with 3 mods, & the Hanley PE-2 is a 2 diode module with 4 mods in the channel
Principal Heavy Weight is 3 diodes per module, and 4 modules in the channel
NC Reckless-2 is a 2 diode module with 6 mods, and Reckless-3 is a 3 diode module with 4 mods in the channel
BrightON II is the same spacing and module count as the Hanley PE-2, or 2 diode mod, 4 mods in the channel
From the sign surface light output measured in Foot Candles, combined with the Foot Candles per watt, the BrightON II has exceeded our competition with like modules in it's class. Even some modules with higher output rating (1.32w, .92w) module and a higher mod count in the same measured channel.
In other words with the BrighON II, you're getting more light with less modules, more light at a lower project cost, and more light at a lower cost of operation.
That's efficiency in a lot more ways than one!!!
A single bag of BrightON II LED modules is composed of 80 modules.
Fully stretched Module to Module on a string gives you 7.625" on center, 5.5" of wire between module, that's 50.83 Linear feet of light, or 1.57 modules per foot.
We purposely gave the BrightON II just like the SunFire an extra wire length. The extra wire length was configured to give extra space for not only for changing your lighting needs, but also to save labor on single stroke LED layouts for going in and back out of letter layout for "Bars, Extensions, & Serifs" such as E's and F's among others without having to make a splice. The extra wire length will also allow you enough wire to jump and make a 5" row to row. One of the bigger feedback's we received was a lack of wire space. With our High Efficiency diodes combined with 175˙ Optics, our modules don't need to be spaced so close together for light uniformity.
All of our orders will be sent with three convenient module spacers for laying out your modules faster rather than by naked eye, or tape measuring out if you need.
The three spacers serve a purpose.
The 175˙ Deg Optics gives you a unique ability to spread the High-End Super Efficient Light of the BrightON II LED Module. Fully stretched you already have above competitive light as listed above in a 5" channel.
- Fully Stretched is 7.625" Module to Module OC, giving you slightly lower lighting levels than listed down below. This is for your typical everyday channel letters you can economize and still have above competitive light. (50.83 Liner feet of light, $1.33 a foot)
- The first spacer is 5" long for a 7" Module to Module OC, giving you 192 FC on a 5" deep sign face surface, this is for your typical everyday channel letters. (46.66 Linear feet of light, $1.45 a foot)
- The second spacer is 4" long for a 6" Module to Module OC, giving you 200 FC on a 5" deep sign face surface, this is for your competitive build channel letters that might require more light (Freeway Visible) and for Halo Lighting (40 Liner feet of light, $1.70 a foot)
- The third spacer is 3" long for a 5"Module to Module OC, giving you 235 FC on a 5" deep sign face surface, this is for your specialty channel letters that may have Day/Night faces that you want to look White White at Night, and NOT a murky dirty Gray, or again for Halo Lettering that need that PUNCH! (33.33 Linear feet of light, $2.04 a foot)
CHANNEL COMPARISON (Our Old High End vs Our New High End)
Our Highly Light Efficient .8w BrightON II LED Module (175 Deg) vs NC's .9w LED(140 Deg) HLC LED Module Series with Samsung chips. You see these Module casings used by many GOQ, to just about any Korean or Chinese Based Module.
There are a couple of factors that can make a LED module Light Efficient, optics and of course the chip. Our BrightON series has both, bigger part rests on the chip. I know this because early on development I tried to integrate the Samsung chip to our module casings, and well...with the amount of light we got from power driven....it got it's ass kicked by the one we chose. You can't just throw in any or some decent chip in a cool looking module with cool optics and expect it to go perform well.....that's like throwing in a Yugo motor in a Ferrari body and having great expectations
Here is a what's in a 4" x 2' Channel with standard 5" depth
NC has 6 LED modules. 6 x .9w = 5.52 watts and achieving 203 Foot candles of light on a #7328 sign surface, and doing it at 35 Foot candles per watt
Our High-End BrightON II has only 4 modules. 4 x .8w = 3.36 watts and achieving 214 Foot candles of light on a #7328 sign surface, and doing it at 63.09 Foot candles per watt.
We always hear marketing words of "Energy Efficient". What is Energy Efficient? It's comparing two equal sources and when one is doing it for equal or greater with a lesser cost of operation...that is "efficient"
We're comparing one compartment with six .9w modules against another with only 4 modules that are only .8w each. You would think the bigger wattage LED should win right?
Don't get me wrong about NC. In the LED Module world, NC LED Kicks the crap out of a lot LED Manufacturers, ALOT. I've shown and illustrated that many times here on the Sign Syndicate. But....Every Dog has his day... Wait, let me walk some of this back. Not all NC LED modules are the same as I've explained in the past, only our special configured Reckless was the one that really kicked ass.
LIGHT SPLASH RADIANCE
Both Modules are 3" from the wall surface.
Check out that angle and splash radiance of both.
You can't even identify the horizontal measuring tape with the high powered NC LED Module, look at the small light output range radiating from the NC LED
Now the BrightON II......
Look at how much light is splashed on the surface each one of the modules is mounted to!
In the end,....More light with lesser modules.
Efficient Light, Efficient Cost, and it's doing it at a much lesser cost of operation.
Beside the important aspect that the BrightON II LEDs are 24 volt modules, most importantly they are Constant Current....NOT Constant Voltage. What is that?
Constant Current Systems mean, every LED module is integrated with a Current Driver (Not just resistors) for protection keeping the current the same one each module from the first to the last module on a string. What does this do?
In short, Constant Voltage LED Systems have no regulation, only resistors for protection. On a Constant Current System the brightness of the first LED on a long string is just as bright as the last LED on the same string, unlike CV where the first LED will be brighter than the last. The first LED on a CV system is taking a bigger hit from the power supply than the last.
Protection from LED Power Supplies. Each LED PS has a different DC Output, it can range from 12v to 12.25v. Each additional traction of a volt can kill a CV LED system because it's NOT regulated and it's taking a bigger hit. As mentioned on the Sign Syndicate before in the past, while installing a set of CV Permlight LEDs for our Neon & LED Bench Mark Test (The Great White Hope) where all strings were set on a dedicated PS, it wasn't noticed that a manually adjustable LED Power Supply was previously set for 12.20 volts not 12.0 volts from previous benchmark testing, and within 30 days the LED string had degraded 30%. This is what a fraction of a volt can do to various LED product lines based on how they are developed
With CC LEDs, the output of the PS is regulated across the LED modules, more power won't hurt it.
When you hear such words affiliated to LED product lines such as "Eco, or value line" it means Constant Voltage
Constant Current LEDs have longer life spans because they are protected. We've always been very big here on the Sign Syndicate about Constant Current systems
24 VOLT SYSTEM
The Complete BrightON Line is 24v, NOT 12v, there is a clear advantage for this.
First and most importantly, this 24v system operation halves the amperage running through the Wiring and Modules reducing the heat, resistance, & improving reliability You'll also have more voltage headroom for longer runs.
With a 24v system you can load more on a power supply. With a 12v system you are limited to a 60W power supply channel with U.L. regulations, with a 24v you are forded 96W. That's a lot more modules per channel! Less cost, less labor, less moving parts so to speak.
24 VOLT POWER SUPPLIES
We recommend using our choice LED Power Supply for our system, and that is non other than France Lighting Solutions.
France isn't just some brand we so happen to stock. We went out of our way and asked them (truth be told....I got on my hands and knees and begged) if we could compliment our High-End BrightON Line with their High-End LED Power Supplies.
Here is the reason why for my pride swallowing experience.
With your typical LED Power Supply (Insert name here), you'll be loading (depending on brand) it to 80%-85% of your full 96W channel, or 77 watts to 81 watts of LEDs, leaving room for voltage loss etc to keep from stressing your power supply. With our Brighton II LEDs, that's 96 to 101 LED Modules.
We want to offer nothing but the best.
With France Lighting Solutions...and if you've been in this electric sign industry long enough to know when it comes to their Neon or LED Power Supplies, you're getting not only quality, but longevity, & dependability.
With the France Atlas & Eco Series that we stock to compliment our system, you are getting the only, ONLY "True Power" LED Power Supply in the industry
True Power means that you have the ability to load their power supplies to Full Load.
That's the way they were engineered, that's the way they are made, and that is what you're getting alongside our LEDs to give you a complete High-End System for all your Sign & Lighting Projects
The Atlas series even has a LED indicator light to tell if you're loading too many LEDs on the power supply.
With a France "True Power" LED Power Supply you can load 120 BrightON II LED modules, that's almost a 24 module difference over using another brand LED power supply. That 24 more additional modules can make the difference in NOT having to add another or multiple LED power supplies for a single sign or project. You will be saving cost and labor from having to add another or multiple LED power supplies for a Sign or Cabinet.
We will be stocking 24V France 96W, 60W, and 30W LED Power Supplies http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/store/category/22-led-power-supplies/
- High-End 24V LED Module System
- .8 watts per module
- 155 lum/W Efficiency
- 175 Degree High Efficiency Uniformity Optics
- Constant Current, NOT Constant Voltage
- 5 Year, 50,000 Hour Warranty
- 6500K Temperature Light
- 80 Modules Per Bag (Fully Stretched 50.83', 1.57 Mods/Ft)
- Load 120 Modules on a single France 96W LED PS
For Place Orders by phone, by email, or for inquires we can be contacted at (858) 880-1400 - email@example.com or use our online shopping cart.
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