TecnoluxMan

Here's something for you all to kick around that I found quite humorous>>>>>>>>510 watts for a 1530 ferro magnetic transformer, who are they kidding??? Ventex has fallen from grace, for a company who started out selling neon products why don't they state the truth and sell the idea to shops that sometimes the easiest option when lamps come close to end of life>>>>>>>retrofit with new lamps???? Browse over the the numbers they pull>>>>>>> Ventex Retrofit.pdf

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670993/wendys-gets-a-new-logo-will-the-pigtails-survive

I'll be there again>>>>>>>see you all then!

Wonderful and indeed>>>>>>>>>Big Welcome!!!!!

A power grab is exactly that!!!>>>>>>I'll comment at a later time when I can sort out the facts from the rumors but I will say it's like having someone kick down your front door and inviting themselves in to dinner>>>>

Arrogance at it's peak>>>>>>

Can you send me your product list please>>>>>>email or PM Thanks guys!!!>>

Congratulations on the news! Lot's of buzz in the background>>>>>>>>> trust me!

Well stated and yes>>>>do keep it up. Hadn't thought about "Tradition" and where it's gone>>>thanks for making me think on that one

1) Those that have discontinued their membership to this forum have expressed their freedom of choice. Would you feel welcome in a room where you were attacked and labeled as a "do-nothing"? I remain because I still believe the best way engage an uninformed man is to help inform him. 2) I have dodged nothing. I have directly engaged in the subject and content of this thread. You might refresh yourself in Erik's original attack, "Why is it that every Sign Association is filled with a bunch of "Do Nothings" who are regurgitates/throwbacks from one Sign Association after the other??? Or serving in multiple Associations at one???? They pride themselves in turning government regulation into a profitable program for themselves for all to assimilate to INSTEAD of doing what's right for the industry they represent, AND fighting it! Are they all from France??? Seriously!" To this original subject, I have defended what I believe in. None of the examples I've referenced are "wild tangents" but are significant accomplishments from which not one volunteer has profited. Quite the opposite in fact, given the significant expenditures that were made by the asoociations. To reference these devoted individuals as "do nothings" is an affront to everything I've come to value in my many years in working with CSA and ISA. 3) As for my avatar, there is no irony. How the heck do you even arrive at that conclusion? I am 3rd generation in the sign business, the grandson of Art Nelson, founder of Nelson Neon in 1947 in Richmond, CA, and son of Bill Moore, one of the original founders of the California Electric Sign Association in 1959 and founder of his namesake company in 1974. After 34 years at Bill Moore & Associates, I am currently President and work hard everyday to maintain the tradition of customer service and quality product. I'm proud of this history and will continue to argue the positive characteristics of neon here, with my clients and the proponents of LEDs. Skip Moore Answered just like a politician========do you not see his rant as a reaction to everything he just listed? Regardless of your family ties to associations & neon, this association has not done one damn thing when it coms to defending it in public relations an as stated======="publicly" PS===== For your last statement you edited out, I'm not tecnolux=======but rest assure ====Tecnolux would agree with Eric despite their membership and relations with ISA Where on God's green earth did you come from to have with such ridiculous & naive statements===== boy we're in bigger trouble than I thought. Eric, keep it up=======and don't ever want you to become an association member.

I am absolutely beside myself to hear about association affiliated members canceling membership here=========and then have two presidents dodge duck & weave simple questions whether they agree with the content and position of this thread and take wild tangents elsewhere? Holy smokes!===============Nice of you to have neon in your profile photo too, how ironic. Most disturbing=========Keep up the good work Eric

What a typical response you would expect to hear from a politician and not what you would expect from a association>>>>>I don't think they know how to address this.

Thanks for sharing, It's a real pretty crane that's for sure >>>>>>>>>>> i've read the long skylift thread and this is the second thread on Icrane>>>>>>>I've seen your duplicate post on SW, are you a outside rep for Icrane? >>>>> What's in it for you?

France makes some real nice lamps too