Erik Sine

Hi Michelle and welcome The reasons for investing in a pylon sign are too easy, and it's all about visibility for your tenants and investing in your tenants so their noticed. Especially for centers that are not so easily seen from the public right of way. That can be for a ground or pole sign. I think a even better article that could help in educating property managers is having some knowledge in...is whether or not they should be investing and paying a large upfront cost in "retrofitting" their existing signage when marketed too by a lot of these so called "independent firms or consultants....who aren't actually interdependent at all, their actually salesmen or reps of light source manufactures. They will walk into your office as if they are the "wizards of smart" and can come in with a impressive power point presentation. They may even have a lot of articles from our sad trade magazines, whom aren't actually trade magazines at all, their actually just brochure magazines who are more set on selling one page ads than actually representing the truth for the electric sign industry. Property managers and developers are fed a lot of marketing claims such as "savings"...."efficient"....."Return on investment". I'm talking about Retrofitting from conventional light sources such as Fluorescent or Neon Lamps to LED There is a lot of mis-information by these reps and sign companies who are looking to make profit on parts and labor of LEDs for something that makes no sense in most cases. There is very little difference in power consumption between the three when it comes to equal light output, and very little difference in cost of operation. IN fact in most cases, the ROI on retrofitting is and can be 20 to 40 years, and in that time consumers will be re-retrofitting many times over and that savings never comes. So consumers who have no background or experience in light sources, or their cost of operation are being mislead into thinking Fluorescent and Neon Lamps are inefficient, dangerous and have poor light output, when actually the opposite is true. But, you won't find any of this out from a light source rep who was a lift-gate salesman one day and a LED rep the next who has never even held, tested or evaluated a Neon or Fluorescent lamp. We have done a lot of testing here on the Sign Syndicate in lumen maintenance, cost of operation, and I probably would only trust about 10% of LED products out there on life, and that doesn't even scratch the surface of apples to apples light output. When you hear or are being told statements such as "80% in savings and efficiency".....nothing is further from the truth because a rep is comparing a penlight to a mag-light and telling you the penlight is saving 80% in efficiency. The truth is.....you can only claim one product is more efficient than the other when both have equal light output BUT..... one is doing it at a lower cost of operation. ONLY then can you claim one is actually more "energy efficient" Sadly, there are a lot of sign producers who are lazy and or have very little knowledge of fabrication in integrating Fluorescent & Neon Lamps for illuminating signs OR, they prefer to have a lower cost/wage in employees that don't have the skill set in a wide variety of applications so they only produce with a "LED everything" attitude. Which is great for them in a business sense.... ....but terrible for the consumer who can be left with a end-product that has cheap imported Chinese LEDs or product that has the environment that is too harsh for LEDs There is something that consumers are NOT aware of. Every light source has their strengths and weaknesses, and not one light source is a fit for all applications

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Their just pretty well built, their beefy, and can be adjusted in many ways besides the height

Maybe I'm not with the times, but saw these Saw Horses in a shop from one of my customers and thought i t was pretty cool. A line of products that I know Lowes stocks. But thought how handy these must be. This shop loves them

That's awesome Paul! Glad to hear you had a lot of good success with our USHIO LED lamps, we love looking at our customers finished product pics especially when their used in the way you applied them, flashing and animated. And of course, those Red Neon Lamps......they'll last forever just being Glass and Gas, their light output is not affected by time or environmental temperatures. They'll outlast and outshine any "Fake" Neon Flex LED product because each individual diode in that product are always degrading with each day that passes, especially the Diodes that are trapped in a gel or silicone. I still don't understand the shops that use these fake Neon products, I get it for indoor....accessible to public applications, but for outdoor? Always failure to come with inconsistent light soon enough

You ain't seen nothing yet,wait until I break out my crayons!

I know my fabricator loves my high detailed project plans, wait until you see my method of of attachment plan Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I get calls and emails every so often about the frustration in the need to login to read some topics. So, I thought I would renew the reason why in an explanation. The Electric Sign Industry is still a trade, at least we are the few who still treat it that way and NOT as a commodity.....and the very reason why some topics we don't want out for public reading. All members are verified in a variety of ways to gain entry here. Some topics are public, most are private for the trade only. Unlike the print sticky aspect of our trade, for whom can just simply buy a printer or plotter on ebay, the electric sign industry still is a true trade and there is a learning process, safety aspect, as well as consumer protection part where in most states... electric sign companies need a contractors license and again, individuals who qualify must go through their state requirements and that is a Trade process. Anyhow, that is why you must login to read most trade subjects here

Anyone know what the deal is with the OSHA Crane Certification? I thought I heard the requirement is postponed or put off complacently? Or maybe I heard wrong altogether

it was Soooooooo bright!

It's a shame, the only entities/groups etc, in America that have anything remotely close to incorporating anything Americana is this site, and the United States Sign Council Sign Association. Oh wait, I don't think there is a USSC anymore, and before I left they removed the Red, White, & Blue out of their logo and tried to chase the coattails of ISA to capture a "international" audience and $$$$$. However, the USSC involves themselves in more Pro-American causes than ISA, with vets, tributes etc

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One of the reasons why is, because it's easier to mass email you and the 30 other shops around the intended targeted area and look at the replies with the lowest price rather than taking the time to call 30 shops who might have too many questions

So after doing some research on The Sign Syndicate I found a lost post I made and apparently it has NOT been 4 years since I've had to do some Fact Checking / Debunking FOR the Signs of the Times magazine. How come I don't get paid to correct their magazine? Is this what Pro bono is all about??? I knew it didn't feel right, and 4 year is just too long. I somehow had this tucked away in Joe Wartman's Forum Damn.... It's only been a year

I merged the two topics so no one gets lost