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Erik Sine

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  1. Erik Sine

    Vegas Sign Convention

    Anyone going to ISA this year? It crept up so fast...well this whole last year has gone by so fast. I think this was the earliest we ever booked our room and flight, which was last October, lol
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    CNC Router questions

    You don't need to go to sign shops for CNC work, in fact their more expensive. I'll sub project out to metal and acrylic fabricators, they usually charge by the hour and most of the time they have not only Rotary CNC's but also Plasma, and Water Jet. A shopbot CNC is a great entry level router, perfect for acrylic and HDU and light alum.
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    CNC Router questions

    What mfg's have you been looking at? Most decent CNC's will do that no problem. Big thing is software and learning how use it. Hold down Vac can make things easier to have (240v), Dust collector is a must (240v), Collumbo spindle is best (240v), air filter hanging above is also nice to have for the fine particles. The key, buy more than what you really think you'll need. Most regret not buying a larger size router table than they thought they would use.
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    1019 porcelain housings

    We have the TC50 Porcelain housings in stock, but their sold in boxes of 50. In size they're between a 200 housing and 1019 housing
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    1019 porcelain housings

    They are no longer produced, if you find some that someone has you're lucky! It's a shame, I really like these housings but apparently they were only rated for 5,000v so it made them limited
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    D Punch

    It's terrible, all those punches are so hard to find these days. Looking for a 7/8" & 1-1/4" if anyone has one.
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    We're Moving Out

    Just one or two days left. Once I move this stock, sales OVER!
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    We're Moving Out

    CALL 858-880-1400 or email orders@thesignsyndicate.com To Place Orders Well, it's one of those times where the lease ends and it's time to move to another location. So from now until the end of January on top of our Christmas Sale we're also having a Moving Sale, the least amount of items I need to move, the better on my back! Our Christmas Sale Advertisement Below, we have more to add NC LED SPECIAL PRICED ITEM NC Reckless-3 6500K IP68 .72w modules Constant Current 2 Mods/Foot 50 Module Tray $45.00 Each (20 in Stock) Buy 10 or more for Free Shipping NC Reckless-3 Blue IP68 .72w modules Constant Current 2 Mods/Foot 50 Module Tray $45.00 Each (16 in Stock) Buy 10 or more for Free Shipping All items below are priced based on in stock only. After these are gone, our regular pricing stands. PLASCO TRIM CAP 3/4" x 165' Rolls - $40.00 Each Green - 4 rolls Dark Blue - 5 Rolls Blue - 5 Rolls Bronze - 2 Rolls Yellow - 5 Rolls Duranotic Bronze - 3 Rolls Red - 2 Rolls 1" x 165' Rolls Black - 5 Rolls $50.00 Each White - 2 Rolls $50.00 Each Red - 3 Rolls $48.00 Each Blue - 5 Rolls $48.00 Each Gold - 5 Rolls $48.00 Each Bronze - 2 Rolls $48.00 Each TRANSCO 48' HO FLUORESCENT BALLASTS TRA 26 1048EP Up to six 8' Lamps 24 In Stock $50.00 Each TRANSCO PBG & PT TRANSFORMERS Transco T 612PT $65.00 Each (12 in stock) Transco T 512PT $55.00 Each (8 in stock) Transco T 312PT $55.00 Each (10 in stock) Transco 7512 PBG $65.00 Each (12 in stock) Transco 612 PBG $65.00 Each (8 in stock) Transco 512 PBG $55.00 Each (12 in stock) Transco 312 PBG $55.00 Each (8 in stock) Transco S 7512 PBG $65.00 Each (8 in stock) Transco S 512 PBG $55.00 Each (8 in stock) Transco S 312 PBG $55.00 Each (8 in stock) TRANSCO SILICONE BOOTS AND CAPS FOR GTO 7 SERIES (18AWG GTO) 15MM ECS 7-15 Black Boots (200 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 15MM ECDB 7-15 White Caps(200 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 13MM ECS 7-13 White Boots (500 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 8 SERIES (14 & 18 AWG) 15MM ECS 8-15 Black Boots (500 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 15MM ECS 8-15 White Boots (400 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 13MM ECDB 8-13 Black Caps (200 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 13MM ECS 8-13 Black Boots (1400 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 13MM ECDB 8-13 White Caps (100 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 13MM ECS 8-13 White Boots (400 in Stock) $45.00 Bag of 100 NOVAGLO LEAD-FREE ELECTRODES 13MM RATING 25-50MA LENGTH 65MM 13mm Tubeulated 1360 Electrodes $42.00 per Box of 100 13mm Non-Tubeulated 1360 Electrodes $42.00 per Box of 100 12mm RATING :25-50MA LENGTH 65MM 12mm Tubeulated 1260 Electrodes $42.00 per Box of 100 12mm Tubeulated 1260 Electrodes $42.00 per Box of 100 FLUORESCENT HO LAMP SOCKETS Tombstone Spring $1.25 Each (50+ Free Shipping) Tombstone Stationary $1.17 Each (50+ Free Shipping) Snap-In Socket Spring $1.09 Each (50+ Free Shipping) Snap-In Socket Stationary $1.03 Each (50+ Free Shipping)
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    We're Moving Out

    Stock Updated, 2 Weeks left of this sale
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    Side Projects in the Shop

    I would have no problem with personal projects, but I wouldn't allow projects for profit, you're fitting all the overhead and more.
  11. It has to be called a claim because there is no way to verify something that hasn't even existed long enough to know. So here it is... Sloan is putting out their Prism Enlighten LED Module with a 9 year Warranty. Already they've received a few "Wows!" I mean, why wouldn't that statement, receive such a reaction from the public or end-users? It's like a statement that came straight out of 2005 from a manufacturer that said 100,000 hours guaranteed followed by all the "Oooooo and Awwww's" of a public who had no idea what they were in store for. The Sloan Specifiers and Marketeers who are said to be independent are already batting this out there Now, that's fine and dandy, and their probably correct. I've never heard of a 9 year claim until now. Doing a quick skim of the product page I see they only offer a 5 year warranty for labor, so....after 9 years what will a user get for replacement and what about the match of rendering and light output and how will that affect the sign itself? Will all parties be happy, especially the consumer? When a Marketeer for Sloan was asked on Social Media by us as well as an energy efficiency consultant, the questions went unanswered only more push of "Look at the amazing Light and Product" and oh, please attend one of their amazing power point presentations for answers to your questions. HUH?!?!? So the answers will only come to light behind a closed door controlled environment by the manufacturer, no answer out in public like the executed marketing statement . The questions were simple, and something all who sell products would be asked for. We asked, "does that include labor too? (Before out skim read). In almost 79,000 hours of operation what % of the original light output does the warranty cover? For example, will the cover anything that drops below 70%, 60%, etc etc. A lighting consultant asked, "Also, what time is covered by the warranty? 24 by 7, 12hrs/day, , 3 hrs/day, or?" A just question, for example is the 9 year claim specify a limited time of operation within a day....or is it 24/7 and almost 80,000 Hours? Now, I'm of the opinion this is all hype as the labor cut off is still a typical 5 year warranty, anything above that Sloan is taking a calculated gamble that the Sign Company who did the won't remember or push for the warranty after 7 or 8 tears, the consumer who signed the contract is still around and remembers they have a 9 year warranty, the business/consumer is still around and in business, and that the sign might even get revamped by them with something newer. That's my opinion. But that marketing claim (something executed but never fully explained) sounds good. It's...."Very Good Bullshit" Now don't get me wrong, their modules are Nichia (nice), their Contant Current (Nice), but their only .72 watts per module and you're going to need a lot of them just to compete with most light output of good quality Korean LED Manufacturers, or Neon, or HO Long Life Fluorescent lamps that companies like Voltarc Produce (50,000 hrs). You must also use their power supplies for this warranty, which makes no sense because their LED's are Constant Current. But, anything to stretch to purpose to buy more I guess. Bottom line, It's mediocre light output and low power for less heat, but it has a very good Marketing claim behind it that's not fully explained as to whether it's warrantied for almost 80,000 hours of operation at what cost of light output, or whether as the Lighting Consultant runs to all the time, is the 9 year only for say 3 hours or 8 hours a day which would put it as 9,855 to 26,280 hours of operation??? Because that is a HUGE difference maker. In our own testing of Project Tightey Whitey, good low power LED's usually last 70% at 18,000 hours and some even 24,000 hours. Those who aren't from this industry, or hip to what goes on which seems to be a big preaching point will read, go to their presentation and say "WOW!" Oh, the adoring public. The Trade magazines who get this big check for advertising will no doubt be orgasm'ing all over this product in future obligation piece write-ups are in the works if that has not already begun, because I don't read these brochure magazines much anymore, so I don't know if it's already been done The biggest part that disturbs me are these outside/independent "Specifiers and Marketeers" who are supposed to be independent and who push the end clients towards a particular manufacturer. Are they Independent? We saw this in the Genesee Beer Project (who was merketed to by an outside agency) that was complete Hogwash from the beginning and mass failure happened with that project before it even began http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/5364-signs-of-the-times-february-2012-issue/
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    Maybe The Wildest LED Claim Yet

    Oh Boy, now Principal LED is trying to compete with the outrageous marketing claim of 10 years with all of their products. What...now Labor costs in that 10 years??? Where's the confidence??? Is there confidence or only a marketing ploy? So how is this all going to match up 9 years later? Am I reading this right? if less than 15% of the diodes in a letter or cabinet fail or dim , it's not covered? Do their power supplies also cover a warranty for 10 years? If not, why not? Why not wrap this into one coverage? What about Lumen maintenance? If the Light Output dims above 15% of the original light output in under 10 years will it be covered? If so, their in trouble! I doubt they'll warranty that. 😂
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    We're Moving Out

    Not moving out of San Diego, just a couple of miles
  14. Erik Sine

    Sign Syndicate Site Upgrade

    Won't get to me unless they export me from this world. Until then I'll just keep pulling the arrows out and sticking myself with a hot poker, lol
  15. My Apologies everyone, the site was down for a few days as we were repairing both a data base error and crashed tables. In the next few days some functions will be down as we start the slow process of upgrading each feature. Please reply here to this topic if you see anything non-functional Thanks
  16. CHRISTMAS YEAR END SALE From now until the end of the year we're having our Lowest Priced Sale EVER on all of our LED modules & Power Supplies. If you have never tried our NC Reckless LED Module Line, this is the perfect time....Not to mention our Wet Location LED Power Supplies as well. Unlike most of what you'll see o the market, our LEDs and Power Supplies are ALL IP68 NOT IP67, IP65 BUT IP68. Once you give us a chance and try our NC Reckless LED Line or Union Power Supplies, you won't go back to using the Chinese or Taiwan Products Most Importantly, about our NC and Union Electric Sign Products.......NOT made in CHINA!!! Buy 10 Trays of LEDs or more and it's FREE SHIPPING Buy 12 LED Power Supplies or more and it's FREE SHIPPING For inquiries, to place orders, you can call or email us at orders@thesignsyndicate.com | (858) 880 - 1400
  17. SHOPPING CART LINK DAILY DELIVERY FOR SAN DIEGO 3/4" ($46.75) & 1" ($54.75) + Shipping Colors are below * Black * White * Gold * Silver (Brushed Silver Appearance) * Bronze * Duranotic Bronze * Orange * Red ( 3M Poppy Red 3630-143 | Pantone 179 C ) * Blue ( 3M Intense Blue 3630-127 | Pantone 300 C ) * Dark Blue (Avery Dark Blue 8500-007) * Yellow ( 3M Sunflower 3630-25 | Pantone 124 C ) * Green ( Oracal Emerald Green 8800-087 | Pantone 348 C ) Some notes I'd like to add about this product. Some may have used this product in the past and some may have never had a chance. This product disappeared from suppliers right after 9/11 from what I understand there were Customs issues that made it too costly to bring in. IF you remember this product from long ago, you will be glad it's back (just like the reaction I've gotten to all who have purchased from me). IF you have never used it, your fabricators will love you for using it, it's MUCH MUCH easier to work with and notch, you won't get those splits you sometimes get on corners. My other understanding is that this product was mainly distributed on the west coast, so not many on the east coast have ever tried it. My advice is try it, believe me YOU will LOVE it! Before 9/11 I used PLASCO and the Silvatrim Trimcaps. I still have signs up 16+ years and this trim cap is still up, it's very durable. PLASCO Trim for Polycarbonate Channel Letter Faces Plasco is an excellent channel letter trim cap to be used to fabricated polycarbonate / Lexan channel letter faces. We also stock Channel Bond, the 1 part system which makes it easy for bonding Plasco Trim to Polycarbonate. You can also find Channel Bond here PLASCO VS JEWELITE In another thread I was asking why anyone east of Colorado "WHY" they mainly buy 1" Jewlite and not 3/4" Jewelite for 24" Channel Letters and smaller. The reason seems to be is that when you use 1" Jewelite with a standard 3/16" channel letter face the 1" Jewelite gives you more clearance because the arrow extrusion protrudes more than 1/4" from the face giving you less mechanical fastening room. Make sense but 1" is very tough to notch, bend and get in small letter centers too because of that arrow extrusion. I was always use to Plasco Trim Cap in my years of the sign industry, NOT Jewelite because on the West Coast Plasco was stocked more than Jewelite before 9/11. So after this "clearance" point was brought up I did some quick measuring because I had a east coast client buy Plasco 1" to match up with his regular use of 1" Jewelite. Then shortly after receiving his order with 3/4" samples he soon after starting ordering 3/4". I asked him why the change in smaller trim. He said the change was because the 3/4" Plasco trim gave him the same fastening clearance that he got buying 1" Jewelite. He went from paying about $70.00 per roll to $44.75 saving $32.15 I've attached some images to show you that you can use 3/4" Plasco Trim Cap that will give you the same clearance as 1" Jewelite IF clearance is important to you. Plasco vs. Jewelite - Here we display the channel letter baseline along with the clearance you get using 3/4" & 1" Plasco / Jewelite Trim Caps 1" Jewelite clearance 1" Plasco - More mechanical clearance than 1" Jewelite 3/4" Plasco - Just about the same mechanical clearance as using 1" Jewelite 3/4" Jewelite - Less mechanical clearance than 3/4" Plasco 1" Jewelite - Arrow extrusion protrusion more than 1/4" past the channel letter face. U.L. Sign Accessories Manual Info Plasco is a Elkamet product made in Germany and their U.L. file number is E10010 ELKAMET KUNSTSTOFFTECHNIK GMBH GEORG-KRAMER STRASSE 3 PO BOX 1263 35216 BIEDENKOPF FED REP GERMANY Aluminum reinforced sign face trim, Type Elkamet Profiles. E100102 1. These trim materials are used to secure a rigid thermoplastic sign face to an outdoor or indoor sign. 2. The ability of the trim to exclude water from contacting live parts needs to be evaluated in the end product. 3. Minimum No. 8 sheet metal screws need to be provided for securing the trim to the sign body. The maximum spacing between screws shall not exceed 18 in. and no fewer than four screws are to be used per face. 4. These products do not comply with enclosure requirements. 5. The sign trim face shall be "Continuous solvent or adhesive bonding" to secure the sign face and trim together in one of the following combinations: Sign Face (Generic Material) = Methyl Methacrylate (Acrylic) Solvent = MethyleneChloride Sign Trim (Generic Material) = Cellulose Acetate Butyrate You can contact me by email for orders / inquiries at orders@thesignsyndicate.com or (858) 880-1400 or purchase from out online Shopping Cart
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    Channel Letter Trim Cap - PLASCO

    Just to give an update. These rolls are now 151 feet in length. We now have an Orange, Dark Blue, and Duranotic Bronze, all intended to match vendor channel letter coils. Also, not the Vinyl Vendor color match numbers above in case you need to match to vinyl faces I edited the spec info in the original post above, but still need to update all the banners and ads
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    Plotter software for Mac computers

    Uh, Tinaers, isn't this your company?
  20. Erik Sine

    Exaggerated LED Spacing

    Thought I'd pop this out early before we start doing our own Sign Syndicate LED Light Spacing Study that we will be posting here on the SS, which will probably start early next year and before the ISA Expo. Before we do so, thought I would ask how many may have been duped by a Manufacturer or Distr Rep that said you could light up a sign with amazing spacing well beyond anything you have ever used, all to find out once you did the spacing they specified and sold you on, you had to end up reconfiguring the sign and double to tripling what you originally used? So far in the last year or two I've heard the similar story from the project planners more than a few times. For example, a 1.2 watt 3-diode LED module 1.5 modules per foot that you can use a single row to light up 24" of can or channel at 8"+ Deep, or rows 18" apart for multiple rows. When it comes to 5" depth one row for a 16" can or cabinet or 8" spacing between multiple rows.? There seems to be this word being coined around by MFG or DIST reps, even Sign Specifier Consultants who claim to be independent and are supposed to be experts, but actually behind the scenes work for certain LED manufacturers...these are the secret reps who just work as consultants but do nothing more than market certain companies and collect a check, their NOT really consultants more than they are salesmen. The coined word is "usable light". What is usable light? When it comes to Sign component sales it means selling a product at max margin for minimum results. The minimum results means a configuring a sign face light to the stressed point of even light before you start to see the light source before spacing is too far apart to create hot spotting or shadows of inefficient light. Sign that are illuminated with usable light CANNOT compete in shopping centers where they compete with other signs for attention. But these usable light signs look awesome in a dark warehouse or Sign Convention floor. The other problem with usable is, after a couple thousand hours of operation and lumen maintenance takes place the original illumination is now lower, so now the LEDs stand out thru the face because of the shadowing or light loss between LED modules or rows. Now, that usable light has expired. Anyhow a hew illustrations below of pics posted in a MFGs webpage that do not display how their LEDs are marketed SIGN CABINET ACCORDING TO MAX SPEC I just simply put this cabinet to scale using the 2" Led Modules. The 9" Spacing in the middle shows you what any shop would use for spacing for a 12" deep cabinet. To the left I eliminated a row to show you what 18" on center between rows is, and where they claim it should be. 18" is typical for HO Fluorescent lamps which light output is well beyond LED modules, is 360˙ and will use the walls of the sign and face to bounce light all around for VERY even lighting. Just imagine to yourself visually eliminating all those rows using the second pic and think of the light there would be for that sign face. Is that how you would light the face for your customer? Where would that light be in say 2 years, 5 years? CHANNEL LETTERS Same question here. 4 Diode 1.8w LED Module same as above. MFG claims one row should light up 24", as you can tell they used multiple rows, as you should to light up an approx 16" Channel. Again, if you're going to claim amazing spacing, why not show it, why show near conventional spacing as illustrated above? Which all leads to my next question. When you're told you can get a bag of 50 modules for 32' of lighting for $$$$, or 100 modules that light up 64' are you actually get what your paying for? Or are you having to tighten the spacing? Most spacing numbers with all these new fancy cute LED "prism" Lenses that claim to be 170˙ or 180˙ which come with a cool chart and graph that most will scratch their head to but it does look scientific, don't seem to be adding up. Don't get me wrong the spacing can work with this "usable light" theory, but how many of us configure and build signs for "usable light". In most cases we build to compete, and of course last. I've been hearing too many stories of consumer complaints and shops having to go back out and redo the signs adding more LEDs. The MFG & DISTR model is gearing up to tell you can you can save money by buying their product because you get sooooo much more footage out of it. The problem lays in the fact that if you put them side by side with a near product that does their spacing differently ( much tighter) you'll see the tighter product is much brighter (duh) and of course over time, it won't hot spot and shaodw as fast because the spacing is MUCH tighter and it won't display as it would for further spaced products Knowing the light output of LEDs, that is now how I would specify or configure LED spacing of modules or rows of modules, they need to be MUCH tighter and smaller. That's just me, and my opinion based on most applications in our industry, and I do know not every signs needs to be blinding light, but consumers want visibility in most cases, where subtle takes a back seat....in most cases Anyhow, just my 2¢
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    Merger of Giants

    Congratulations to David & Corky at SignTech, California Neon Products or CNP who does the Jack in The Box signs just bunked in with SignTech. Big things just got BIGGER. I hear Dave's Neon Museum located in their new building is getting even larger. I need to stop by and take a peek.
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    Toggle Switches

    Any requirements for using toggle switches for T-Boxes or sign bodies change in the last few years? Thought I heard something about them or how they are being used was going to change, or not. Thanks
  23. Current Install /Vendor Map. Pretty Impressed! California wins with 14 markers. Big gaps of Sign Installers in North & South Dakota, Utah, New Mexico. But clearly the Eastern side of our country is more Dominant with Sign installers Looking for someone here to do a Sign Installation or Maintenance? The installer map can be found here http://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/membermap/
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    No BS Sign Retrofitting

    So... I haven't posted any jobs lately and I need to play catch up. So I'll start with our latest projects and work myself backwards As we've discussed so many times on the Sign Syndicate. There is a time to retrofit, and a time not too. Neon and Fluorescent lamps/systems should not in most cases be retrofitted to LEDs unless accessibility calls for it. Otherwise, it doesn't make financial sense for the consumer to do so, or....just so a shop can make a project sale on BS energy efficiency numbers and mythical saving $$$$ So here are some retrofit jobs that make REAL sense. NEON RETROFIT Here's a chain of Studio's that I've been doing since the early 2000's. This particular sign is only partially mine, everything from the Logo and red letters. This was the first job I did for them leading up to fabricating all new signs for their locations. The white is from the previous location and Neon has been in it's original form since the late 90's, and it's 6500K Snow White. The logo is 15mm Tri-phosphor, Elite 65D I believe. The Logo and Red was done in 2008. It's very hard to tell because red and white is hard to capture and a cell phone cam does no justice but the White lettering is dimmer than illustrated and is about 50% of it's original light output. Not bad for 20+ plus year old lamps!! So the owner called up and wanted a revamp. Had I been the average shop you bet the immediate response would have been LED! SAVINGS!!!!! BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT! Well, no. We're logical over here in SoCal, a land where 50¢ modules would have replaced the Lamp Art. The logical choice, and more economical choice for the consumer? Going from a single halo phosphate 6500K Snow White Neon lamp to a Tri-Phosphor EGL Designer 7100 Series Lamps. When we moved and installed (2008) this sign we did so with Tecnolux Silicone GTO and Caps. All that was needed for this retrofit was new lamps, and leaving the awesome silicone GTO and transformers in place! Now, I owe you a night shot, the iphone pic I took was garbage, so I'll update that soon. But the Logo and White letters match up well, and even with the old faces, the sign illuminates like a new sign at night. Forgot to mention, the white faces are also from the 90's and they've held up quite well, the Trim Cap is Plasco, also held up quite well for 20+ years old. During the day, the ace look good, so no need to replace. LED RETROFIT So a new client... They called, they were moving and wanted to know if they needed a new sign or whether to fabricate a whole new on because the current was lit up like crap. Had hot spots, dim a places, and just crazy outages in sections of letters. It would have been better had I taken night pics, BUT...I didn't know I would be posting and writing about it here so Had this been some other shop, I'm sure the nightmare would have continued Yes, two different LED manufacturers in the same sign Woohoo, the electric sign industry in it's finest form right here! It made me SO proud! If you're familiar with Gaverieli Plastics, I need say no more, let alone Chinese JS LED's....well, their both China and their both crap. They don't last, they fail, they cause companies problems with having to go back and replace and most importantly...They cost the consumer, YOUR client. The second sign which they had, made at a different time and by another company was US LED, also garbage. Illumination was just as bad. Sorry, didn't get pics of that sign because again, it wasn't my plan to make a post here If this wonderful, thoughtful sign package doesn't make you cry, I don't know what will. The original plastic was green vinyl over white acrylic and in such a short time this sign was beat, and probably why they called a new contractor for the work for their sign move. Well, a new sign made no sense. They were just moving a few suites over and they weren't going to get a larger sign so the original would do. New faces with 3M Lime Green over White acrylic. The most important aspect of this Sign.... Yes! NC Reckless-3 LEDs. Top Tier Samsung Diodes running on a Constant Current system...NOT Constant Voltage. 1.2 watt modules. Most important detail about our NC Reckless LEDs? Their made in Korea NOT CHINA!!! Beautiful! Check out that crazy light meter reading! That's almost 300 surface Foot Candles, which is about the equivalent light output to a 13mm Tri-phosphor white Neon Lamp behind white acrylic. If that is not simply utterly gross and disgusting, and you're not just sickened by that number, you have no stomach These Reckless-3 LEDs will NOT be powered up by their low budget power supplies but rather our Union LED Power Supplies made in KOREA, not CHINA!!! It's usually best to retrofit out with what was already in a sign, and not change one light source to another. It's makes more financial sense in MOST cases, not all, but most.
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    No BS Sign Retrofitting

    Right??? That's how old the Neon is too! At 50% but still lit! I'm going to assume the same thinking that makes the decision in their head to buy 50¢ modules to $ave! $ave money for them...NOT their customer, who was told their sign would last 100,000 Hours with their LED choice
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