Mad Scientist

Believe it or not Paul we use that technique to keep the intense sun off of us down here from time to time. Especially Aug. and Sept. when a couple of hours in the sun can be painful. Some companies here even have canvas Bimini tops for their baskets.

If they told you to paint the whole face Brian, I hope it was because it was a second surface applied painted graphics like in the picture here. Otherwise your customer is prepared to loose a portion of his/her deposit to replace the plastic. I said above the vinyl was less than a year old, you know...easy to peel. In any case a desk jockey isn't going to tell me, the sign guy how to properly remove their copy from a multi tenant sign. The property manager of the mall may not appreciate my lame excuse that THEY told me to do it. Same property manager would always remember us as morons and potentially cost me future work. The job of the guy who hired us is to write the check so that by the time I get back to the shop I'm already compensated. I don't do stories, excuses, 30, 60, 90 or 120.

I think the image speaks for itself but a major supermarket moved out of a plaza and had a sign company remove all the signage including the less than 1 year old, first surface vinyl on (4 ) 10 ft. tenant panels. Some bright nitwit thought peeling the vinyl would be a bitch with vice grips a hammer or whatever he had so he decided to flip the faces but first, fill in all those white plex colors with red spray paint this way at night when the signs light up, no one will know. Needless to say I would like to thank him or her for providing us with new work to replace all the white plastic.

And also remember Kirstie, obstacles are what you see when you loose sight of your goal.

Obviously needed a much larger crane if you are not going to take it down in sections. Can you say Morons.

This man didn't need to get hurt if the priority wasn't to save money while getting sign repaired. Call a licensed pro who knows what not to do.

Our thoughts are with his family. Another reminder of respect for that which bites. Police release identity on man electrocuted at Florida Keys marina BY DAVID GOODHUE dgoodhue@keysreporter.com Police released the identity of the man electrocuted while working on a sign at Whale Harbor Marina Saturday afternoon. Roger Dinneen, 54, was working on the sign at Wahoo’s Bar & Grill and asked a co-worker to turn the electricity back on so he could see which lights were not working, said Deputy Becky Herrin, media relations officer for the Monroe Sheriff’s Office. The other worker switched the power back on and returned to the sign with a volt meter and saw his colleague being electrocuted. He rushed back to the office to shut the power off. When he got back to the sign, Dinneen was unconscious and lying on the ground, Herrin said. Medics took Dinneen to Mariners Hospital where he was pronounced dead. The Sheriff’s Office Major Crimes Unit is investigating the incident.

Assuming they were the right bolts to begin with, torqued down to the proper specs. $$$$ As far as 3rd party inspections go it's hard enough to find anyone to service this equipment let alone inspect it. Sign companies repair when it breaks and expect the driver to be the inspector or "fall guy". Most of the time the driver is barely a sign guy to qualify as aerial equipment inspector. The equipment may also have been used past it's limits many times to weaken the bolts as in extended all the way out at almost a horizontal angle. It happened to a 100ft Manitex bucket that was nearly all the way out installing a sign 20 ft off the ground. Can you say pop the bolts like popcorn.

I can only speak for what I use like Steve but try to get some specs from those you can find, stud availability, gun types and compare.

Hey Bill, for those that don't know it, this company has made amazing signs in the past and from what I understand is now offering wholesale pan faces. Is that correct and what are your size limits Bill.

I wouldn't but you could argue the other 1/2 of the Acrylic sheet won't be 4 x 4 any more, if that matters. If that is what it takes to make the sale, you won't feel the additional 2 inches.

Curious how you pull your permits. Are you licensed sign erectors to do installations only at some point?

Nice job Erik. Couple of comments on the above. A. If you are in cold weather and using Argon gas for Mercury tubes, why not just throw them in the dumpster first. Anyone in cold weather that wants the mercury filled tubes to light uses K-4 gas otherwise even a 60ma tranny may not light bright. B. All this retrofit talk failed to mention the listing already on the sign letters. Parts of our state are already requiring permits for the retrofit of letters or cabinets to LED. I doubt this will hit the boonies as hard as metro areas but beware of code enforcement. I didn't see that in the Image 360 bullshit.

Sounds like a good time to properly repair and service the neon portions but the frame is probably shot and customer will want LEDs.

Noticing this "special effect" all over town.

Try Todd at Austin Relics if you need someone local. He could possibly help or guide you in the right direction.

Like I originally said in the beginning of this post, not only a shitty weld but where is the sleeve inside the pipe at the weld point? Duh. Morons can kill.

As interesting as the lucky bastard was Angie, just trying to figure out the other part of the story. Why did the f...... thing fall down. Let's get to the bottom of that.

What are we looking at? Cold welds on the pipe?

Marina Mark, what the hell are you talking about? I'm going to have to get Tim Kaine to translate that for me. Are you saying keep your neon signs clean, no mater what background you use?

The funny thing is how much everyone loved Reagan as a President....a former actor. That can only mean Trump will surpass any expectations by those who think he is unfit to be president. Why? He has brass balls (maybe solid gold), speaks his mind without being PC. I can't even imagine anyone more qualified to run this country than Donald Trump. A professional negotiator who convinced people to finance projects in NYC when all were running out of NYC. How much does one individual have to accomplish in his or her life to qualify for president. I read his book decades ago when it was on the NY Times Bestseller list for like a year and realized this is an extraordinary man. Those who protest because democracy worked (not in their favor) are clueless and swallowed the campaign crap hook line and sinker. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the price of LED's to fall but am certain his touch will help America first as he promised. Did anyone else on the list say they don't want the pay for being president?

Always use sides for the window signs as this helps prevent warping, protects neon during shipping and allows you to mount 3 hole brackets on top corners for chain and leveling. This is BEST way to level signs in the window. Of course do not use plastic tube supports unless you want the neon units to fall off the background down the road or be written up in certain municipalities.

Looking for replacement Formed faces damaged by Hurricane Mathew. Any help would be appreciated.

Jamin, it doesn't seem anyone has any input on the procedure we all use to construct a majority of signage in this industry or it is a tightly held secret. We talk about LED's constantly but welding? What's that. Is that the stuff that makes sparks?