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Now I do feel old. I thought I was up to speed but realized I have no idea what you just said . Your site is the only one I have a problem with.

No, ended up going to Mexico instead. Had a root canal while I was there. Please see above post and advise how to fix.

Ever since the new forum, I have about 100 screen widths between each reply. Maybe I am getting old. How do I fix it?

Thanks I don't feel that old

Thank you! Attached is my response to the building official Nate, I need to talk to you about this sign. There are a few issues with it: 1) thickness 2) spot/beacon light which was not shown on submitted plans 3) electrical permit has not been issued 4) the use of guy wires to support signs is prohibited per code. There is a guy wire supporting this sign, and this was not shown on the plan. If the sign cannot be supported without the use of a guy wire, I suggest it either comes down or it needs to be rescaled. I don't have your phone number, so if you could give me a call, I would appreciate it. I have been made aware that the down lighting fixture is not permitted. It will be removed. I did not contract the electrician, The client did. The electrician will be responsible for pulling the electrical permit. I forwarded him the permit application, weeks prior to the sign installation. This sign is self-supporting, without the guy wires. They are merely a safety factor for winds. This is a standard installation technique for projected signs, regardless of their size. We were simply following the national building code which states. SECTION H112 PROJECTING SIGNS H112.1 General. Projecting signs shall be constructed entirely of metal or other noncombustible material and securely attached to a building or structure by metal supports such as bolts, anchors, supports, chains, guys or steel rods. Staples or nails shall not be used to secure any projecting sign to any building or structure. The dead load of projecting signs not par- allel to the building or structure and the load due to wind pres- sure shall be supported with chains, guys or steel rods having net cross-sectional dimension of not less than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm) diameter. Such supports shall be erected or maintained at an angle of at least 45 percent (0.78 rad) with the horizontal to resist the dead load and at angle of 45 percent (0.78 rad) or more with the face of the sign to resist the specified wind pres- sure. If such projecting sign exceeds 30 square feet (2.8 m2) in one facial area, there shall be provided at least two such sup- ports on each side not more than 8 feet (2438 mm) apart to resist the wind pressure. H112.2 Attachment of supports. Supports shall be secured to a bolt or expansion screw that will develop the strength of the supporting chains, guys or steel rods, with a minimum 5/8 inch (15.9 mm) bolt or lag screw, by an expansion shield. Turn buck- les shall be placed in chains, guys of steel rods supporting pro- jecting signs. H112.3 Wall mounting details. Chains, cables, guys or steel rods used to support the live or dead load of projecting signs are permitted to be fastened to solid masonry walls with expansion bolts or by machine screws in iron supports, but such supports shall not be attached to an unbraced parapet wall. Where the supports rnust be fastened to walls made of wood, the supporting anchor bolts must go through the wall and be plated or fastened on the inside in a secure manner.

Does anyone know of a government backed sign installation code? I looked at the state level and found nothing pertaining to sign installations. The reason I'm asking is, we recently completed and installed a 4' x 6' projected sign. As standard in this type of installation(at least in my 20 years of experience). We added to guy wires for additional support. The city had originally approved the sign permit application, but now says that their code does not allow guy wires. The suspension cables were not shown in the drawing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Not yet . I will be offering a trade discount on dive and spear fishing charters! For now the work is starting to pick up and we might make it down there yet this winter for a week!

no problem. It was a challenge. It also needs service a little more than I would like. It is very effective advertising though. My roof sign has been performing flawlessly for the last 18 years. I have a tendency to over design and over engineer my signs and designs to where they have to be absolutely perfect and flawless. And a lot of the times they never get done. I am making progress, however

I was hoping nobody would ask. The border tube on my building was taken down from a video update store. The ones that needed service so often. They were double backs using electro-bits products, and going through the building with flex metal conduit. The signs neon was done in the same manner. I was actually doing a test and installed the neon on top of some Gemini letters. The signs on the front of the building was also a similar type test. I painted the insides of the letters white, cut clear lexan backs, and installed blue led's for a nice halo effect. when the blue halo mixes with the red border tube it turns purple. almost like a 2 tone halo

No, unfortunately flashing signs are not allowed here. But concealed weapons are! A piece was broken during a hailstorm, and I am easily entertained.

I had to take a picture of my front office door for the starter of this thread.... The eye catchers on the flag are pretty phenomenal when the sun and wind are just right. It is truly star-spangled

The countdown has begun...... Minnesota Sign Company, Inc is officially for sale. Current manufacturing facility is a 60' X 75' commercial steel bldg with a 16' overhead door. There is also a 1350sq ft overhead area (that we use for trimcap and letter assembly) underneath overhead area is finished office space. This facility was built new in 1996 specifically for sign manufacturing. It has an expandable end wall built in.It is in a high traffic location with good visability from hwy 65. The facility can be purchased or leased. All sign making equipment can be purchased along with company. Price yet to be determined depending on desired options. I will be putting together an equipment list over the next couple of weeks. What doesn't sell will accompany us on our next adventure. It is important to note that this is not a firesale. Yes the economy is tough and we are not operating with a high profit margin at this time. We have been planning on this relocation for years.

I had a misfire with my latest weapon I have been devoloping......

Love your product, look forward to using it again soon. Thanks for your help on my sign projects, top-notch customer service. At first I was worried that you were one of those animal rights wackos. Even if you are a little more to the left ,your product and customer service won me over. Keep up the good work !

I knew it was going to be a good dive when I had a 33 inch grouper on the stringer within the first five minutes . The dive just kept getting better.The other fish on the stringer are yellowtail snapper, http://www.floridamarine.org/engine/downlo...;dltype=article they have an average length of 12 to 14 inches, the ones on the stringer are really good sized. They are some of the best eating fish I have tasted

Thanks. I used to do a lot of hook and line fishing until I tried spearfishing underwater. I've always loved hunting as well, it kind of combines the two sports for me. It also has the added element of me being a part of the food chain, Instead of the top. For those of you who haven't tried scuba diving. I would highly recommend it. It was a life-changing experience for me. It is as close to floating through outer space as I will ever be. Some good ideas on the business. I don't think I could handle a partner though. Dealing with new business and start up business I've seen too many partnerships fail.

Thanks! I guess I am going to turn up the heat on sales. Work more and dive less? After looking at the numbers it turns out my company is worth more to me than I thought. I hate to have a real job here is where I would like to be.... Managed to harvest these down in the keys in feb...

Looking for input from those of you who have sold or purchased a sign company. I'm contemplating selling my company, which was established by me in 1991. It is a full-service commercial sign shop. I am preparing to relocate and answer the beckoning call of the ocean....

Thanks we actually have the wackos here trying to ban illuminated signs, claiming light pollution. Dark skies is tied into the league of Minnesota cities,two very anti sign organizations. http://www.darksky.org/mc/page.do http://www.mtexpress.com/2003/03-08-13/03-08-13lowlights.htm This would be the direction the wackos want, and they use energy conservation as a vehicle to get there.

I The road to hell, communism, socialism, abolishing constitutional rights, & eliminating personal freedom is paved with "good intention" I am now running with scissors

Top speed is 65mph going downhill with a tailwind! I drove it for 8 hrs straight one day, That was alot!

deposit paid. Congratulations Brad.

Sign Crane did not sell on eBay. Reserve was at $4000. This is what I am selling it for. First $1000 deposit can claim this beauty. $3000 due on pickup

Only 2 days left and only 1 bidder!