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  3. wizzy00

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    Curious with the photo, will an extension ladder do that? He will not get very far out of the bucket and up the ladder. But they win the prize for stupidity. Have found that once these guys are caught by OSHA or in my country the MOL. They crack down on all of us
  4. Mad Scientist

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    Hate to say it guys but thinking like you are a snitch or rat is why these assholes are taking your work. Enforcement starts with the ligit sign companies. If you don't call it in because you're a p_____, that is why they are everywhere. Cities are not set up to bust balls because there isn't a budget for it. Code compliance for example just needs a complaint filed and they will be happy to investigate. Morons that install signs without permits look next door to see what the criteria is and then proceed to do it wrong because they are just copying the other illegal. Stores would pay a dogcatcher to fix their sign if he was cheap enough.
  5. imanut

    Vegas Sign Convention

    Selfies would be great, and then post alongside the deadbeat company name! Quite funny and apropo.
  6. Erik Sine

    Vegas Sign Convention

    Subbing.....not my line of work but, maybe for shits and giggles I'll go and take selfies with all the non payers all while having a ear to ear smile & shit eating grin on my face with them and post at a later time. I remember for that one year I volunteered at the USSC show and they had their version of a National Sign Co Meet & Greet and when I walked through to say "hi"..... I was muttering to myself knowing our review list "...they pay, they don't, they don't, they don't....THEY especially don't....he has people looking for him"
  7. Signsfast

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    "We have a service opportunity in your area for 1 man in a bucket truck our NTE is 275" does that sound familar?
  8. imanut

    Vegas Sign Convention

    Sorry, that is what I was referring to! It's always fun to put a face, or faces, alongside the infamous deadbeats! Course it's also fun to see their face when you ask them why they don't pay their bills! Oops, my personality is showing. Sorry. For those that go, have fun!
  9. dave C.

    Vegas Sign Convention

    OK.... I should have known.... 🙂
  10. Erik Sine

    Vegas Sign Convention

    I think he's jokingly referring to the National Sign Co meet and greet If only ISA checked out the credit history of those National Sign & Service companies that they have attend their function, and of course stop handing out long time achievement awards to them, especially since they continue to poorly pay their subcontractors on various projects around the country. If only...
  11. dave C.

    Vegas Sign Convention

    Gary, What meeting are you referring to? I don't see anything that fits that description.
  12. Sign Lady

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    Could not have said it better! Unless and until those of us doing it right take a stand against the "hacks" I feel like we are complicit in what is happening to our industry that most of us love and work hard every, single day to protect. Also, unless and until we start to take a stand against these low ball NTEs being sent to all of us, we are going to continue to get the same results shown in that picture. You can't even drive your truck out of the yard for the $150 NTEs I have seen coming through here - or even $200/$300 ones when you come down to it. Not unless it is down the street from your shop. With all of the insurances, licenses, fuel costs & labor costs by the time you are done if you accept a $300 NTE you make nothing when all is said and done. You paid to have work done for THEIR customer to make THEM look good - most of the time without even a thank you from rude, pushy PMs. If they low ball & sell to their customer something that they can't find one of us to do (and they wouldn't do themselves for that amount), then that's their problem. They have to stop promising their customers something that they know is too low for what they want done. If we all stand together, they will have to stop doing it. Or if not, they will get what is in this photo and their customers will begin to revolt too.
  13. Erik Sine

    outline neon

    Also, should have asked. Do you have any pictures to share or description of wall specs?
  14. okay it's been a few years since I was taken by Skylift for a joy ride. I think it's time to make people aware again. I am still getting emails of people hoping I can help because they also got taken. Do I need to make a video???? Send me footage of your junk box by our friends at Skylift BTW- Elliott feel free to send me a sample of a new V60 (on a dodge) or L60 for a sample to show in my video.
  15. UFB Fabrication

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    So here is where I stand on this. I have to follow all City, County, State and Federal laws. I pay for workers comp and liability Ins. I pay Sales, Realestate, Corporate, Personal Property, Sales, Fuel, Utility and Other taxes. I am under the thumb of UL, OSHA, EPA, MODNR, DOT, IFTA and bunches of state and local regulatory agencies. We also have Business licenses, State Registration and other fees to "allow" us to be able to do business. We are also at the threshold of going over 50 employees which ads another layer of costs and Bureaucracy. We have all kinds of internal safety programs, HR stuff and on and on and on. The sign business as a whole IMHO is in 4 groups : 1 The Big boys with a bunch of National work and hundreds on employees. 2 Medium size companies that have all the responsibilities of Group 1. 3 small shops who really struggle to meet all the requirements to be legit. Lastly Group 4 These are folks who skirt every rule and regulation they can. They are plain and simple HACKS. The have no business doing what they do. They cost everyone else more in everything that legit companies do correctly, yet still compete at the bottom keeping a great percentage of the retail jobs bid to cheap. I feel the Sign associations need to step up pushing local code enforcement and others to either make these folks play by the rules or go away. The sign game is a serious business. With public safety concerns and the skills and talent to design, build and install a decent product. Nobody like a RAT and wants to turn someone in to OSHA, EPA or the local AHJ, but the Rat is stealing your cheese by allowing him in your yard.
  16. Plasti-Lite Signs

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    Couldn’t agree more with the statements above. Low bids are a breeding ground for this type of dangerous work environment. I will bet a national service company has this account and this guy cut out the local sign company that he worked for, see it all the time. Probably a no name truck.
  17. edward@butlersignco.com

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    My thought was also to bring it to corporate but what assumption would I be making in doing so? Should it be on company letterhead? Should it be a personal letter written off hours? Should the gentlemen in the photo be approached about why working like that isn't such a good idea? As far as life and limb is concerned, should the subject of the photograph be approached? As far as protecting our industry does the USSC or ISA get involved? I guess it would be a matter of picking the intent and going from there.
  18. Ron Gilbert

    Looking for used sign crane

    I have worked with companies that have purchased trucks from all three companies that you have listed. Purchased two from Carolina Crane with complete satisfaction. Recently purchased a unit from Sam, jury still out, but appears to be a nice unit and as advertised. Purchased one unit from All Points several years ago, in the end, was not satisfied with the unit but shortly after receiving we had issues with the unit and they stepped up to the plate and assisted with the additional cost …
  19. I sent you an email over a month ago. Unfortunately, I have not gotten a response. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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  21. Signworksinc

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    Thats because a “service coordinations company” called and said we will give you 300 shinny bucks NTE
  22. Morgan Crook

    outline neon

    I agree with the first part. In addition, be sure to bond and ground whatever you are attaching the tube supports to back to the transformer box and to the transformer
  23. signery

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    it's a shame that Michaels would allow this, someone should send it to corporate
  24. UFB Fabrication

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    As a wholesaler we here it almost every day.....So and so used to sell it to us for..... Yes and thats why they are out of business. I am so glad I dont do retail work as the asshole customers will drop you for 20 bucks for the bucket truck guy above. I wish he would have just been another lawn mowing company. In a few months he will be gone and a real shop will have to go back a fix his fix.
  25. Sign Lady

    DEADLY GAMBLE

    You are exactly right. The rest of us have to fight this stereotype every day. Pathetic! Pisses me off.
  26. HansonSigns

    Scoreboard Install with Tragic Results

    Our prayers to the son and the familys - especially those witnessing the tragedy.
  27. LNJSIGNS1

    Scoreboard Install with Tragic Results

    That is horrific, Heartbreaking. I Pray the Lord Jesus bless the boy for the rest of his days.
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