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It's no shot at me, no worries.
I'm semi -retired on sign production. I only have a handful of clients that refuse to go elsewhere. Also, it's only in my local market.
Our Electric Sign Supply sales don't amount to much here locally because our market is all based on lowest price NOT quality....it's a shame really
The upside to the few items I distribute is that I know what I'm talking about unlike the distributor/sign supply rep most talk too on product information or questions. I give customers and sign shops my first hand knowledge on use and testing and won't read them info from the product "Faq" page, or rely on info from some manufacturer rep if a product is going to "last"
Staying somewhat active in sign production/installation also keeps me up to speed with the Electric Sign Industry trends and active demand as well as codes, unlike a sign supply rep who was selling cars one week to selling sign components...or a sign supply rep who has been around for years but yet never produced or installed a sign.
The Sign Syndicate Members and Customers worries, are also my worries...it's always been that way
I only distribute products I have tested, used, and or created ourselves like our new BrightON LEDs which has been taking the best characteristics of LED modules from all our testing over the years and putting it all into one product line.
I'm not looking to be the next big sign supplier, far form that. I just want to sell high-end components to shops looking to produce high-end signs that last...and work efficiently.
But I feel you on the COVID shut down, how it's making for desperate times. People loosing their jobs, working minimal hours, schools shit down and requiring zoom only and requiring parents to stay home and not work if that is possible. Making people get into areas they might not normally dap into
I could write a long thread with all the BS Kirstie is dealing with at the hospital and how the medical community is widening/broadening COVID symptoms to count more people all to get paid more by MEDiCAL, and to politically keep the number positive cases higher. In my state, with what they're doing...we will never open up. It's not testing more to get a higher number of +'s....it's broadening and changing what can lead to + symptoms...
Sorry for taking a medical tangent on your thread....it just pisses me off
We all know times are tough. How do y'all feel about your local Sign, Metal, Plastic Supplier transitioning into selling direct to the public? I like many other sign shops have added Social Safety Barriers to their portfolio. What's your alls take on this?
Example, I was just talking to my main metal wholesale supplier. The CSR told me to check out their new line of Barriers. Needless to say she got a polite earful from me. I for one am not going to compete with my suppliers. When this CV19 bs is over. Will they start selling pre built cabinets, or offer channel letters direct to the public as well?
Erik, this isn't in any form directed to you. You've always been upfront with your sign/supplier sales. This is directed towards the big guys who have always sold only to resellers.
I will not be giving them my business for eternity.
We like the plastic clips. I completely agree with the 1-2 click rule. Having that extra travel has saved us a few times. We get the face fairly tight/smooth then go around the whole thing depressing the clips another click or two as needed. The tensioning tool makes short work of that last little bit. Puckering might be a sign of having it too tight as well. Yes, I've done that. Either that or the sign needs additional supports. Its amazing how much tension a flex face puts on a cabinet, especially if it was not designed for a flex face originally.
A good friend of mine almost went under because of Image Point but he was able to get about 75-80% of the monies owed to him. I think he had to go after I.P.'s customers in some cases.
And as far as the vast majority of these national service companies are concerned, I echo Paul's sentiments. Do it on my terms or not at all.
Fabricate and install some retainers and charge the customer! :D
If its a structural issue with the cabinet, maybe that's the only viable option. If you have to remove those clips for servicing, its just setting up a nightmare for someone in the future otherwise.