Jump to content

ELECTRIC SIGN SUPPLIES

If You're Looking For Premium Electric Sign Industry Components Like Trim Cap, LED's, USHIO LED Lamps, Neon Supplies, or LED Power Supplies, Then Please Visit Our Online Store or Feel Free To Call Us For Inquiries or Placing an Order!!

Buy Now

NATIONAL SIGN & SERVICE COMPANY REVIEW LIST

For Sign Company's Who Work As Subcontractors

Before You Work For A National Sign & Service Company You Need To Look At The Reviews Of These Companies Before You Work For Them. Learn When To Expect Payment From Them and What It's Like To Work For Them, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. Learn and Share Your Experiences Yourself For Others

You Must Be A Registered Member & A Subcontractor
Click Here

MEMBER LOCATION MAP

Looking for a fellow Sign Syndicate Company Member For A Sign Install or Maintenance Call? Locate a Supplier or Advertiser Regarding Thier Goods & Services?

Become a Member & Upgrade Your Free Membership So Others Can Locate You
Click Here

Sign & Crane Accident mixed with Power Lines


Recommended Posts

Steve from UFB Fabrication sent this to me and it took some time trying to figure out how to post on here, but it got done!

 

BTW - This work was not performed by a Sign Shop

 

 

 

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • !llumenati

Obviously human error !

 

The entire sling and lifting set up was wrong from the start.  As soon as it lifted off, the sign flipped and it was to late.

 

Did you see the Real Sign Company truck drive by just before the fall. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The crane was plenty big enough to lift that structure, with the proper set up, that structure has 11 cabinets that weigh somewhere in the range of say 250#'s each (rough guesstimate) those three poles I'm guessing around 1800#'s each and then miscellaneous cross braces, say another 1000#'s for those. Total guesstimated weight is roughly 9150#'s.  That is a 105 foot 30 ton crane, it can lift two of those structures with the proper set up.

 

Lifting over the side of the crane like that with a boom angle such as this one is never a good idea. Also the way they had it rigged make NO sense at all, Now if he were to set up closer and have the boom more straight up I don't believe this would have happened.

 

Did anyone else notice the propane torch tank in the bed of the pickup that the boom landed on? The boom missed it by merely inches. With the sparks from the electrical contact and the propane, that could have been a hell of a lot worse!

Edited by tdewitt
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Board Patron

Totally agree with all the posters regarding crane capacity. That crane was plenty for the task.

 

Not sure how stupid you have to be to rig a sign up from the center? I think most people 5 years and older who've used a teeter totter could figure that out.  The boom was already at less than a 45 degree angle on pickup....side of a steep incline on unstable earth that had just been excavated from the look of it.

 

I'm going to assume they are widening the road and the sign was going to be disposed of. Those cabinets would have been trash as soon as it torqued in any direction....let along the crappy rigging.

 

Probably only had one crane, so couldn't get to the top to properly mount it...used an extension ladder to rig it up as high as they could reach.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Board Patron

somebody new what was going to happen, they were already filming.  Trying to get famous on youtube?

 

63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.signworksinc.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Toronto, Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

As operating and teaching the sign erectors crane course here on Ontario. Other comments were correct about the rigging, special attention should have been addressed to the power lines, angle of boom a factor. 

The other possible problem was where the the site had been excavated, was the area of the outriggers, stable and compacted soil.

The forces on the crane and surrounding soils would be great. due to weight of sign, angle of boom, length of stick.

Dave

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Board Patron

 Common sense is free and  some people refuse to use it. To me it looks like they were trying to get famous on YouTube

 

63 foot Elliott v60

50 foot 8 ton crane/auger

Skid steer with forks and dirt bucket


www.signworksinc.com

www.wehangsigns.com

Signworks Inc.
Toronto, Canada
416-653-7227
1-877-912-7446

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with the comments. It sure looks like a rigging mistake. Removals are much more dangerous than installs because the difficulty in predicting the balance point creates a potential to swing. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Agree.  The rigging was totally asinine.  Did they ever consider center of gravity?   Aside from the impending OSHA certification, companies should take on the responsibility of properly training their personnel on rigging and lifting..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a long time sign installer, you could see their rigging setup was going to fail from the get-go, as many here have also mentioned. It's become more and more common for GCs to be awarded projects and try their hand at sign work. This game sure isn't like lifting air-conditioners. 

 

Lucky. This could have been much, much worse. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Topics

  • Posts

    • yes, very weird, that she would decide to steal money, doesn't look like her. She still hasn't respond to any of our emails, phone calls, text messages, she still hiding.  (after we purchased 2 new trucks from her previously and was always very good with emails and calls.)   I had to Open a ticket with the Best Business Bureau BBB, and they reached out to her, and she finally responded and she sent them a highlighted contract we signed and she had a clause that if we canceled the purchasing of the truck we would forfeiture our deposit, but what sucks is that we canceled because Elliott couldn't deliver and was already more than 6 months behind schedule and still couldn't commit to a delivery, and instead they kept raising our price so cover material increases.    When Elliot came up with this, we  sent her an email and she agreed to canceling the contract and returning our deposit, we have an email where she promised to send the check back to us,  she was upset with Elliott and understood the situation, I had to fly someone to Elliott Warehouse and pick up the chassis, we had to drive 30 hours to drop off that chassis to ALTEC, and then flew the driver back to NJ, and all of that was at our expense, the truck with Altec Cost us $220,000.00 and we agreed to that because they promised to deliver when we needed, so we bite the bullet.    I don't understand why would she steal our deposit!! we had purchased trucks from her before, we always paid, we need more trucks in the future.  She didn't incur any expense, all she did, was to place an order from Elliott that never happened, and according to Elliott they didn't get any deposit payment, and they didn't bill her for anything, since they didn't get to do anything regarding this order.      signed CAD Signs contract highlighted.pdf Email.pdf
    • I'll get word out.  This is terrible, keep us updated.  
    • Thanks, should be working now
    • "What's New" isn't working.    I got the following message.   This page isn’t working www.thesignsyndicate.com is currently unable to handle this request. HTTP ERROR 500
    • SDNS is a subsidiary company of SDS, Inc. A dynamic, international manufacturing company with offices in Seoul, South Korea, Irvine, CA and Boulder, CO. SDNS provides equipment sales, parts, service and technical support to our electric sign and steel rule diemaking customers throughout North America. We are seeking a field service technician to perform machine installations and provide on-site service repairs and remote technical support to our customers throughout North America. Comprehensive, training on our equipment will be provided. Frequent travel of up to 75% is required, occasionally on weekends. This is a great opportunity to accumulate airline miles and hotel points to pay for vacation getaways! Responsibilities: Read and understand technical manuals Customer-site installation and training on new equipment Customer-site troubleshooting, repairs, training, and service on existing equipment Remote Team Viewer and telephone support, diagnostics and training Test parts and devices When not supporting customers directly job requirements consist of, but are not limited to the following: Engage in providing tech support to SDNS customers from 8am-5pm M-F Actively engage and participate in the development training and technical support documentation, training videos, demonstration videos, tutorials, etc. Perform Local service visits or installations Any other activities not specified above as directed by management to help support SDNS, Inc. and/or its customers Qualifications: Professionalism Detailed, organized, and self-guided work ethic Solid mechanical, electrical, hydraulic skills Computer/technology literate Ability to communicate effectively with people from differing backgrounds Willingness to work hours associated with the manufacturing industry Knowledge of and ability to use industry tools/equipment Clean driving record and valid driver’s license Have, or be able to obtain, a valid passport Able to lift up to 75 pounds Ability to stand for long periods of time Safety Requirements: At office and customer site, follow all safety requirements, procedures and protocols. Benefits: 401K, Dental, Medical, Vision   Compensation: $55,000 to $75,000 per year   Thorton Application:  https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/37284dbb Foothill Ranch Application:  https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/6bd88264      
×
  • Create New...