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  • By Erik Sine
    The Great White Hope IV - Year 1 August 2025 - Present     All Questions or Feedback for this Project can be posted in the Support Thread for this Project Here     As stated in the announcement topic we are starting up the 4th round of The Great White Hope White LED Benchmark Comparison.   Some maybe asking....why we are doing this?   The answer is simple....     We have always done what others have not, or won't do.   
  • By Erik Sine
    The Brighton LED modules are Top-Tier, High Efficiency LED Modules no matter which Brighton LED Whites or Colors you pick up.  All Brighton LED Modules ONLY use High Efficiency chips....meaning more light per power compared to other like powered LED modules.   First let me say it's important to always use the same color LED behind solid colored faces (No Outline), i.e. Blue LEDs behind Blue Faces, Green Behind Green etc etc.   In another Topic we discussed and displayed why i
  • By Erik Sine
    The High-End Top Tier Brighton-IV Constant Current LED Module for Sign Cabinets & Large Channel Letters for when you want strong Competitive Light NOT, usable light!    The BrightON IV Module as low as $75.00 per bag in small case quantities with FREE SHIPPING       The Existing Pylon Sign 44"H x 17'L x 18"D Existing Fluorescent HO Lamps spaced 12" OC as per usual Electric Sign Industry Standard     In this simple low cost Retrofi
  • By Rocco
    Does anyone have any new info on Fairmont?   They requested a service call and even said they would pay by CC the day of service.    TBH i still won't take the work but maybe things have changed.   The PM mentioned a new owner, but I'm doubtful because that's an old story with some companies.  
  • If you’re looking to upgrade your channel letter production workflow, this 2023 SDS Automation ChannelTrimmer® is an exceptional find. It’s in like-new condition, has very minimal hours, and is fully operational. Perfect for shops looking to improve efficiency, accuracy, and production speed. Key Features & Capabilities Automated trim cap processing system designed for precision and consistent output Automatic outside corner notching M
  • By megavolt512
    I am buying an older Versalift truck - it's standard edition AT&T from 1990. 27ft. Ford F350 dually. Anyway, the Versalift was designed to run off a generator, which is on the truck. I'd like to convert this to a battery bank so the generator doesn't have to constantly run. My plan is to add perhaps 4 deep cycle batteries and some sort of charge controller/isolator so the trucks alternator charges these, (but it doesn't use them for starting). I may have to upgrade the alternator, but
  • By houstonsigncrafters
    Houston Sign Crafters has been helping local businesses make their mark with custom, high-quality signage built to last. Our team brings decades of combined experience in design, fabrication, and installation — combining craftsmanship with modern technology to deliver signs that turn heads and drive traffic.
  • By Goatboy
    Unique Signs & Lighting in Las Vegas has an opening in our Design Department. Primarily Production Setup & execution. Ideal seat for newer designers looking to learn the trade. Strong computer skills with the ability to learn various output software. Our primary Software is CorelDraw. Currently supplemented with V-Carve Pro & some Adobe programs. DM me for details. This is an Inhouse - Full Time Position 
  • By Steve lee
    Where are y'all getting new joysticks for for Skyhoist ? I can, find them anywhere.
  • By Erik Sine
    It's been a minute since I've been active on the Sign Syndicate I must admit.   Real Life activities along with how busy I have been with developing our Brighton LED Line have taken me away from keeping this site active.  I wasn't expecting the Brighton LED line to really take off as it has.  It's required a lot of attention and I'm purposely trying to keep product circle on who sells it small.  Quality is where my focus lays and not Quantity.  I have no desire to be the next Principal
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Sales Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  All our employees are long term and committed to fabricating and installing the best signs we can produce.  We take pride in our work! The Sign Sales representative will be responsible for A) Communicating with the customer to find their needs/wants and budget B) Communicat
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Journeyman Electrician / Serviceman Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  The Sign Electrician will be responsible for ensuring that sign installations and service are executed to code and meet company standards. Specific responsibilities include: Troubleshoot sign issues and determine repair requirements.  Install various

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  • The Sign Syndicate BrightON II LED Module


    Maybe I should have titled it "That BrightON Halo Illumination"

    Thought I would share a project where our new High-End 24 volt, .8watt BrightON II LED Modules were used.

    As I've discussed before in the past.  There is a difference and a gap between "Usable Light" and "Competitive Light".  The BrightON II is the most efficient (Light per power) LED Module in it's class, and it is the definition of Competitive Light.

    As explained here and suggested for spacing, it was chosen to use the 3" module spacer, and obviously  you'll see as you scroll down the spacing could have even been much farther apart. 

  • National Sign & Service Company Review Forum


    The National Sign & Service Company Review Forum is a list of companies chosen or requested by members who produce signs or provide services such as installation or maintenance on a national level .  

    These Companies seek services of local Sign Shops who work as "Sub-Contractors" in regional areas to finish & projects for "Their" clients.

    This is a  Discussion Forum by Members who  have first hand working experience by all listed companies in regards to Payments, Management, & Relationships

    This Forum is for Upgraded Members such as Board Patrons, Board Vendors, & National Board Patrons.  These Upgraded Memberships can be purchased from Subscriptions using the button below

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  • FAIREMONT SIGN COMPANY

     

    "......Anyway, Fairmont contacted me just prior to the time I realized Regency was going to give me the runaround. So at the time, I didn't think to check for feedback here (lesson learned obviously). They asked me to remove a Goodyear sign. Did that, then the Regency crap started, then I saw their feedback. That's about when they asked me to remove signs at a Kwik Car location. I told them I would do it but if they don't pay...."


  • BROADWAY NATIONAL

     

    "....Hey guys so I heard from the long lost Broadway peeps today!  Just a warning to all in my area, they are looking for someone to install a "BIG PROJECT' but was never real specific about what exactly it was.  The  first thing I asked was payment terms and do they give a deposit, she said " Net 60 and only a deposit if we were manufacturing".  I knew they were on my Shady list, and verified it with others here...."

     


  • ICON IDENTITY SOLUTIONS, INC

     

    "....I hear ya!  We've been at this for 40 years and yet I still find myself giving these nationals the benefit of the doubt, only to have it bite my in the arse.  And another problem I am encountering lately is the last minute installs.  Being given ONE day to install a complete site (pylons, readers, building letters, DT, etc.  WTH?  And then 90 days later STILL waiting on payment.  Not any more....."


  • COAST SIGN INC

     

    "....Has anyone had fairly recent dealings with them?  We are working with a JCPenny at a local mall for them.  First trip we go out there and "parts are onsite"... this was a joke as the Neon wasn't even made for that letter and the transformer was not correct.  We have given a quote for...."

     

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  • Cranes, Buckets, & Trucks


    General Sign Truck Discussion

    A Forum Filled with topics such as Member Truck Modifications, adding Ladder Racks, Welders, Jibs.  General Maintenance for Controllers, Cables, Tubing & Lubing, Outriggers, Engines. 

    Make & Model Reviews,  what to look for, what to stay away from.

    Certification News & Regulations.

    Reviews of Sellers

Updated Cranes, Buckets, & Trucks Topics


  • By alukard123
    Hi Guys   So I placed an order for a brand new truck with BOOMCO EQUIPMENT in 2021, the owner goes by FAITH LAMB or FAITH RODRIGUEZ, and after making a 19,250k Deposit, Elliott delayed truck delivery 3 times and more than 6 Months after the date they originally promised and not only that, but they also raised the price another 13k due to material increases and other delays, so I had enough with ELLIOTT and decided to go to ALTEC Instead, took a brand new chassis that was delivered to E
  • By Brian
    Hey guys thinking of adding a in basket jib. How many of you guys have them and how useful do you feel they are? Pics of yours would be to see
  • By Erik Sine
    As a request I'm starting a poll to help those who may be looking for reviews on Sign Trucks for their next purchase.    Also included in this topic will be reviews and purchase history content by those who have purchased, sold, and operate or operated the following Manufactured Sign Trucks     CRANES: Elliott Altec Manitex Wilkie Radocy Skyhoist Skyhook Icrane     BUCKETS / LIFTS: RH Ladder Vanladder
  • By Welder-turned-signs
    Has anybody bought, used, or heard good/bad on a company called Socage? Their website is here; http://www.socage.it/ I am in the market for a 80' plus working height bucket truck and ran across one of theirs for sale for less than $200k brand new. Wondering what's up with their product. Here is one of their trucks on ebay; https://www.ebay.com/itm/Socage-94FT-Arial-Truck-Bucket-Truck-Sign-Truck-Ford-F750-Diesel-BRAND-NEW/263481676040?hash=item3d58bb5108:g:ymMAAOSwlAZab4DX&vxp=mtr
  • By Baldwin Signs
    We have an older Sky Hoist and it's developed a problem recently.    When we extend or retract the tubes hop and results in slack in the cables then they will retract until the cables are tight again. Tubes aren’t bent and they are greased. We can’t tighten up the extend/retract cables. We are looking for a place to source parts or suggestions.   Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks,    Ron Gileck
  • By Rocco
    When I bought my ATR-41 it didn't have the jib but I bought one and it's on the truck.  I'm having my hydraulic guy come later this week to make the connections.   And no, I don't want to do it myself.  I'd rather have someone who knows how do it properly.  I'm wondering if anyone else has done this and where is the best place to put the valve to operate the hoist.  I was considering making a bracket similar to the control box of a scissor lift.   That way we can hang it from the platform where
  • By Signworksinc
    When you need a third hand. 
  • By Signsfast
    I am planning on having my sx57 skyhoist rebuilt and installed on a new(er) chassis. I am having a hard time finding unbiased opinions on which class 7 chassis is good and reliable. I realize that DEF systems destroyed the trucking undustry reliability when it was first implemented but not sure what its like nowadays. I want a 33kgvw chassis with about 275hp.  I am interested in hearing from people on what brand/models to look at and avoid. thanks! Brands that I am looking at are  Frei
  • By spectrum maine
    just bought a decent low mile wilkie 520. anybody have one? how do you like it?  seems really simple, mechanically. erik @ spectrum signs
  • By redarmymember
    Curious to know what most are doing about it?
  • By D-Signs and Awnings Inc.
    D-Signs and Awnings Inc.  Is now offering L55 Elliott HiReach Crane Services contact us by email at ddls71@gmail.com or 610-841-2188 located in Allentown PA
  • By Guest Shimmy
    Hi,   What brand and model generator/welder would you recommend to mount onto an elliott?   Would it be a a bobcat 225, 250 or any other recommendations?   Thanks!
  • 24V - Sign Cabinet LED Modules


    Double Sided Cabinet Light Spacing For LEDs

    Most Light Source Suppliers and Manufacturers won't show you examples let alone "numbers" of light readings on Sign Cabinet or Sign Projects from light source components they push like these I'm posting here, but....This is The Sign Syndicate!

    "Seeing is believing" as they say.

    So, one of the components I've been big on because of feedback and demand is a strong enough LED module that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, isn't proprietary where you need to buy their special clips, brackets, etc, and actually put out enough light without exaggerated "Usable Light" under too far spread spacing that's supposed to save you money that won't compete with other existing signs in the area of your project. 

    Biggest complaint from sign shops about cabinet LEDs....."I don't want to use a whole bunch of power supplies!"

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Employment Job Listing Forum


  • By Goatboy
    Unique Signs & Lighting in Las Vegas has an opening in our Design Department. Primarily Production Setup & execution. Ideal seat for newer designers looking to learn the trade. Strong computer skills with the ability to learn various output software. Our primary Software is CorelDraw. Currently supplemented with V-Carve Pro & some Adobe programs. DM me for details. This is an Inhouse - Full Time Position 
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Sales Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  All our employees are long term and committed to fabricating and installing the best signs we can produce.  We take pride in our work! The Sign Sales representative will be responsible for A) Communicating with the customer to find their needs/wants and budget B) Communicat
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Journeyman Electrician / Serviceman Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  The Sign Electrician will be responsible for ensuring that sign installations and service are executed to code and meet company standards. Specific responsibilities include: Troubleshoot sign issues and determine repair requirements.  Install various
  • By jack
    Accent Graphics is looking for a sales rep to take over some existing accounts as well as cultivate new business.  This is a great opportunity for the right individual.   We’ve been in business over 40 yrs, are profitable and debt free, offer a competitive benefits package and have a strong staff. Please visit our website at accentgraphicsinc.com and send your resume to operations@accentgraphicsinc.com  
  • By Wilyouplz
    Sign Connection is a full-service architectural sign company based in Gastonia, NC. From planning to fabrication to installation, Sign Connection specializes in creating signage that portrays a professional image for businesses.   Signcon.com   Role Description This is a full time on-site role for a Lead Installer at Sign Connection in Gastonia, NC. The Lead Installer will be responsible for overseeing the installation of signage, coordinat
  • By John Bloodworth
    We have immediate openings for a service tech / installer with experience. Excellent work environment, well maintained equipment, premium pay for premium people. Our trucks cover Middle and North Georgia - crews have very minimal out of town/ overnight jobs. No crane certification or CDL needed. Paid holidays / vacation / bonuses and other compensation. www.bloodworthsign.com / bloodworthsign@gmail.com
  • By Chad P
    Gulf Coast Signs and Graphics is a fast growing sign company. We are looking for an Experienced Sign Service Technician. We are a full service sign company that provides our customers with all of their sign needs from permitting to final installation and service. Our Technician will work closely with our Service Department Manager. Our ideal candidate is a self starter with a high level of quality work. Our next Service Technician should be able to work well with others and possess excellent lis
  • By Donna Swanson
    Signmakers and Installers Needed DOUG BEAN SIGNS, INC. Hello! Southeast Georgia's best, busiest, and most highly-regarded custom sign design and manufacturing firm has immediate openings for top-notch signmakers, installers, and/or folks who want to become one. Skill-sets likely to qualify you to be a great sign maker: (our #1 preference:) already be a great signmaker lol ….and/or.. finish carpenter/woodworker/cabinet maker /welder/metal fabricator/automotive painter/electrician/ h
  • By jfields1113
    Job description Job Overview We are seeking skilled installers, service technicians and apprentices to join our team. Allied Signs Incorporated is a full-service sign company that specializes in serving and installing corporate signage for national sign manufacturing companies. We also manufacture and install signs for local clients. We are offer premium hourly rate and benefits. Immediately available positions:  
  • By anthonyk
    Now Hiring - Florida   * Sign Installer / Crane Operator - Must have CDL A or B and experience installing pylon signs, channel letters, digital signs, etc.   * Hydrovac Operator - Must have CDL A. Operate hydrovac for excavating small foundations for digital menu boards. Electrical and low voltage experience is also a plus   * Service Tech - Must have experience performing service and repair of all types of signs and lighting. Also includes perform
  • By B.O.P.
    WAS $850.00 + SH&I - NOW $825.00 This is a new component manifold based on our popular SVP-12 Pyrex High Vacuum Manifold. Includes everything listed below (picture attached): ● SVP-12 manifold body with 0-12mm main stopcock ● Our new compact U-gauge manometer (1.5” wide) ● 2 ea, Level 1 Gas Delivery System* ● Polycarbonate manifold supports & hardware ● 2 ea, 18mm x 2ft. lead glass tubing * Gas canisters available at additional cost The manifold is not pre-mounted on a board as
  • By jack
    Accent Graphics is looking for a sales rep to cultivate new accounts.  This is a great opportunity for the right individual. We’ve been in business over 40 yrs, are profitable and debt free, offer a competitive benefits package, and have a strong staff. Please visit our website at accentgraphicsinc.com and send your resume to operations@accentgraphicsinc.com  

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  • $68.00
    The 24V .8Watt BrightON II
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    The 24V 2.4Watt BrightON SunFire LED
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    The Module to Module Spacing is 1 per foot, and like HO Fluorescent Cabinets the row spacing is the same, 12" row to row  
     
     
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  • $41.20
    6" Length LED Channel Letter Wall Pass Thru - 10 Pack
     
    Made in America
     
    Versatile feed through insulators that protect insulated LED Sign Wires for Channel Letters, Reverse Channel Letters in wall penetrations (per NEC 300.4), & other Sign bodies or enclosures
     
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    • Requires a 9/16" hole
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    • This is the late April 2026 Update   This month we added in: GE's TX GEN4 12v .9w 6500K LED Module     G2G's WOW II Red 12V .72W     Also Including the GWH IV Snap Shot of the Project which is also included in the April Evaluation PDF Sheet.   The most important thing to take notice i2 the FC / Watt (Foot Candles per Watt).    This is the LED Chip Quality and Efficiency, this is the amount of Light Per Power.  The bigger the number the more efficient that Light Source is.  You might see a Higher Wattage LED Module with a low FC/Watt value, that means it's not too efficient....could even be pushed and in some cases over driven running hot, which can result in shorter life.   I'm going to drop an example to put things in perspective. Let's take two 2LED Modules...the Brighton - II, and the EveryLite Rebel LED Module.   The Brighton II is .8 watts, the EveryLite Rebel is almost a 1 watt Module at .96w   The 362 Foot Candle average EveryLiteRebel is brighter than the B-II Module at 348.5 FC AVG.  However the B-II Module has a 108.91 Foot Candle Per Watt Average.    So if we were to boost the Module Power of the Brighton - II and make it say, a .84w module instead of a .8w module then we can project the Brighton II Module with Foot Candle per Watt of 108.91 to have a Foot Candle Average of 365.93.   The .84w Brighton - II Module would be brighter, under driven, and more efficient than the .96w EveryLite Rebel.   Now the Flip Side...   If we made the .96w EveryLite Module to a .8w Module apples to apples to the Brighton - II Module, we can project the Foot Candle of the .8watt EveryLite Module would be 301.66 instead of the 362 FC Average.  You can see the Handicap here   So Boosting the power of so-so chips will give you more light for the "Wow" factor, but in some case is over driving, there is more heat involved....and like all electronics...they hate and fail with heat.  This is why a lot of LED MFG's recently make a 2 LED almost 1 watt Module and sell for $40 a bag....   Just something to take note of.....          On another Note, I will be taking down the TBA Vendor as the light is too low, and the Principal / Sloan Prism Module as it is dated   April's 2026 GWH IV Sheet GreatWhiteHope IV 042826 WOA.pdf
    • The Brighton LED modules are Top-Tier, High Efficiency LED Modules no matter which Brighton LED Whites or Colors you pick up.  All Brighton LED Modules ONLY use High Efficiency chips....meaning more light per power compared to other like powered LED modules.   First let me say it's important to always use the same color LED behind solid colored faces (No Outline), i.e. Blue LEDs behind Blue Faces, Green Behind Green etc etc.   In another Topic we discussed and displayed why it's better to use Red Behind Red and how much Luminance you will lose on a sign face if you use White LEDs behind Red Faces Here   The 12V & 24V .8W Brighton-II and the Brighton Lightning 12V .72W LED modules both have Ruby Red.   So let's display just how just how efficient these two High-End LED Modules perform compared to other Red LED modules on the market....and no better way than to show you a comparison than to put other like Power LED modules in a side by side comparison and show what the differences are, with comparing Like Power LED Modules this is truly a great Apples to Apples Comparison!     Let's first bring out the two 12V .72Watt LED Modules, the G2G WOW II Red & the Brighton Lightning Ruby Red.   Some other big characteristic differences are the following.   The Brighton LED Modules are Constant Current, and uses a 18 AWG Wiring.  The G2G LED Module is Constant Voltage, and uses a 20 AWG Wiring.   Thicker Wire is alway better for long runs and you won't get as much voltage loss in those runs which can incur lower light output especially for Constant Voltage LED Modules.    Constant Current LED Systems have IC chips or current regulators on board each Module on top of the conventional resistors for protection, this is added protection for each LED Module as well as assuring that the first LED on a long string is equally as bright as the last LED Module on the string.  With Constant Voltage LEDs the first LED on the string will be brighter than the last, also the first LED Module will take a bigger hit than the last LED on a string.  With CV Systems, any small reduction in voltage coming from the LED Power Supply due to long runs or inefficient Power Supplies the LEDs will dim even with the smallest fraction of a volt, this does not happen with CC systems...even and consistent lighting, as well as longer life is the advantage of Constant Current Systems.              The Comparison is composed of channels for each LED Line that measure 12"L x 4.25"W x 3" Depth Returns    The Sign faces are 1/8" 7328 White with one of the Deepest Red Color....3M's 3630 series 33 Red.   Each Channel has three LED modules equally spaced 5" On Center Module to Module.     Before going further I must stress that it is very difficult to take pictures of Red Light Sources and Sign Faces, it is very hard to truly show the stark differences between the Brighton & G2G LED Modules and how truly brighter the Brighton LED's perform in real life.   Using an ExTech Light Meter and measuring the Luminance or light right on the sign face we get the following:   For the Brighton Lightning Ruby Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 81, and Low of 71, averaging out at 76 Foot Candles.  With three .72 Watt LED modules we get a total of 2.16 Watts, and putting out 35.19 Foot Candles per Watt.  The Foot Candles / Watt is important because it's showing the efficiency of the LED Module when it comes to light output.   For the G2G WOW II Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 40, and Low of 36, averaging out at 38 Foot Candles.  With three .72 Watt LED modules we also get a total of 2.16 Watts, and putting out 17.59 Foot Candles per Watt.          In our next comparison we will bring out the slightly higher LED Modules.....the 12V .8 Watt Principal / Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red & the Brighton II Ruby Red available in both 12V & 24V .8watt LED Module.  No matter which version Brighton you use 12V or 24V, the Light Output is the same...at 24Volts it's just half the current of a 12V version.         Nothing is different in this comparison other than switching out the LED modules, the Faces and Channel Sizes are the same.  In this instance we will only use two LED modules form each LED Manufacturer with a spacing of 6" On Center, Module to Module.   For the Brighton II Ruby Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 56, and Low of 47, averaging out at 51.5 Foot Candles.  With the two .8 Watt LED modules we get a total of 1.6 Watts, and putting out 32.19 Foot Candles per Watt.  Again......The Foot Candles / Watt is important because it's showing the efficiency of the LED Module when it comes to light output.   For the Principal / Sloan Qwik Mod 2 Red channel we get a Foot Candle high of 26, and Low of 23, averaging out at 24.5 Foot Candles.  With two .8 Watt LED modules we also get a total of 1.6 Watts, and putting out 15.31 Foot Candles per Watt.         Again I have to stress that the lighting results are better in person than trying to display in a picture, and the stark difference between the two is truly something to see and pay attention to in real time.   Chip quality and efficiency is everything when it comes to LEDs, and a comparison like this also makes aware of the other differences such as system wire thicknesses for voltage loss....and are you paying for a Constant Current System, or a Constant Voltage System?    Comparisons such as this really shows Custom Sign shops what they are truly paying for, and the quality they are paying for!    You could be overpaying for mediocrity with mediocre lighting results.   If you're looking for something special, and can pay less for it compared to other products that cannot perform the same then....You've found it!   With our Brighton Ruby Red LED Modules, you'll get a High-End, High Efficiency product that will give you Competitive Light, NOT usable Light.  The Brighton Ruby Red will Punch at night over those average conventional Red LEDs. Brighton LEDs are all Constant Current for longer life and consistent lighting , and uses a much thicker system wiring for less voltage loss in long runs.   Remember this....as a wise man once told me..."Always buy the most expensive and only cry once!"    Brighton LEDs are not expensive in cost for $79.99 (Bag of 80), but Expensive in Quality!       You can find our Brighton Ruby Red LEDs in a link below.  Feel free to log into your account and place orders, or for questions or order by phone (858) 880-1400 orders@thesignsyndicate.com https://www.thesignsyndicate.com/forums/index.php?/store/category/51-brighton-led/  
    • The High-End Top Tier Brighton-IV Constant Current LED Module for Sign Cabinets & Large Channel Letters for when you want strong Competitive Light NOT, usable light!    The BrightON IV Module as low as $75.00 per bag in small case quantities with FREE SHIPPING       The Existing Pylon Sign 44"H x 17'L x 18"D Existing Fluorescent HO Lamps spaced 12" OC as per usual Electric Sign Industry Standard     In this simple low cost Retrofit no need for high cost proprietary tracks, clips...just simple aluminum stock you already have in your shop for sign fabrication. $85 worth of 1-1/2” x 1-1/2" angle, 3/4” square tube       1 hour of using self-tapping screws to attach the 1.5" x 1.5" Aluminum angles to the top and bottom of the Pylon Sign and adding in the vertical aluminum bars to where the HO Fluorescent lamps once were.   HO Lamps 12” OC Center. 18 Rows, 144 1.6w B-IV Modules, three 96w France TruPower LED PSU’s for the B-IV Modules.      The result???.....Godly Light that tears into Daylight! Brighton - IV LEDs Powered by France TruPower 100% Loadable LED Power Supplies         Again, the Aluminum angles in this project cost came to $85 total!   No Need for high cost proprietary bars, clips, holders.... just use the angles your custom sign shop typically already have in stock for Sign Fabrication.    With the BrightON IV Spacing the module cost for double sided projects come to $3 per foot.   High Efficiency LED Modules (180 l/w) for more light per power, Constant Current NOTConstant Voltage for Consistent / Even Lighting & Longer Life.  24V instead of 12V for half the current which results in half the heat and resistance.     You can purchase the BrightON IV Modules from our store (Here), and in small case quantities $75.00 per bag of 60 as well as our preferred France Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies which include FREE SHIPPING all across the Continental US Only! ...or feel free to phone in your order (858) 880-1400    
    • IDK if they still have Napa.  This was for sandwich chain.   I won't trust them unless someone can give a recent good experience.
    • That is a blast from the past.... Do they still have the Napa Account?
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