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  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Sales Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  All our employees are long term and committed to fabricating and installing the best signs we can produce.  We take pride in our work! The Sign Sales representative will be responsible for A) Communicating with the customer to find their needs/wants and budget B) Communicat
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Journeyman Electrician / Serviceman Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  The Sign Electrician will be responsible for ensuring that sign installations and service are executed to code and meet company standards. Specific responsibilities include: Troubleshoot sign issues and determine repair requirements.  Install various
  • By Erik Sine
    It's been a minute since I've been active on the Sign Syndicate I must admit.   Real Life activities along with how busy I have been with developing our Brighton LED Line have taken me away from keeping this site active.  I wasn't expecting the Brighton LED line to really take off as it has.  It's required a lot of attention and I'm purposely trying to keep product circle on who sells it small.  Quality is where my focus lays and not Quantity.  I have no desire to be the next Principal
  • By B Sign Group
    I am looking for Tecnolux 12mm and 15mm N717 Saffron Yellow, do anyone know where I can find these? 
  • By SAFE TREE
    I'm wondering if anyone has a manual for a skyhook 100hd crane. I'm redoing one of to swap out with my 80 foot but my manual doesn't list the bigger models. I need to know what size and length cables to purchase. Any help is appreciated!
  • By DeskJockey
    Anyone have experience replacing the panaflex in the large canopies above the gas pumps?
  • By jack
    Accent Graphics is looking for a sales rep to take over some existing accounts as well as cultivate new business.  This is a great opportunity for the right individual.   We’ve been in business over 40 yrs, are profitable and debt free, offer a competitive benefits package and have a strong staff. Please visit our website at accentgraphicsinc.com and send your resume to operations@accentgraphicsinc.com  
  • By wipathcommunications
    Hey everyone, I wanted to share some insights I recently explored about how digital signage is transforming communication within hospitals and healthcare environments. Whether it's patient experience, internal messaging, or emergency alerts — digital displays are making a huge impact. Here are 6 key benefits I discovered: ✅ 1. Reduced Perceived Wait Times Waiting in hospitals can be stressful. Digital signage helps by displaying health tips, entertainment, or wait time updates to
  • By Erik Sine
    Come see our BrightON LEDs displayed at the Abitech Sign Supply Booth #4618 this year at ISA Las Vegas....come see what we have coming next!  
  • By DeskJockey
    Who is printing Panaflex sign faces. Our vendor has had a fire and won't be runnung for a while...
  • By Alina Khan
    Shop signs in Boston, MA, are a blend of history, style, and functionality. From classic gold-lettered signs in Beacon Hill to modern LED displays in Downtown, they reflect the city’s charm. Many businesses opt for handcrafted wooden signs, echoing Boston’s colonial past, while others use sleek metal or neon for a contemporary look. Regulations ensure signs maintain the city's aesthetic, particularly in historic districts. Whether it’s a cozy café in the North End or a boutique on Newbury Street
  • By Erik Sine
    Going to be in Boston over th next few days. Any cool things to check out while I'm there? Plan to visit Bunker Hill, a few other historic sites, few breweries, and take some pics of the CITGO sign.

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  • The Sign Syndicate BrightON II LED Module


    Maybe I should have titled it "That BrightON Halo Illumination"

    Thought I would share a project where our new High-End 24 volt, .8watt BrightON II LED Modules were used.

    As I've discussed before in the past.  There is a difference and a gap between "Usable Light" and "Competitive Light".  The BrightON II is the most efficient (Light per power) LED Module in it's class, and it is the definition of Competitive Light.

    As explained here and suggested for spacing, it was chosen to use the 3" module spacer, and obviously  you'll see as you scroll down the spacing could have even been much farther apart. 

  • National Sign & Service Company Review Forum


    The National Sign & Service Company Review Forum is a list of companies chosen or requested by members who produce signs or provide services such as installation or maintenance on a national level .  

    These Companies seek services of local Sign Shops who work as "Sub-Contractors" in regional areas to finish & projects for "Their" clients.

    This is a  Discussion Forum by Members who  have first hand working experience by all listed companies in regards to Payments, Management, & Relationships

    This Forum is for Upgraded Members such as Board Patrons, Board Vendors, & National Board Patrons.  These Upgraded Memberships can be purchased from Subscriptions using the button below

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  • FAIREMONT SIGN COMPANY

     

    "......Anyway, Fairmont contacted me just prior to the time I realized Regency was going to give me the runaround. So at the time, I didn't think to check for feedback here (lesson learned obviously). They asked me to remove a Goodyear sign. Did that, then the Regency crap started, then I saw their feedback. That's about when they asked me to remove signs at a Kwik Car location. I told them I would do it but if they don't pay...."


  • BROADWAY NATIONAL

     

    "....Hey guys so I heard from the long lost Broadway peeps today!  Just a warning to all in my area, they are looking for someone to install a "BIG PROJECT' but was never real specific about what exactly it was.  The  first thing I asked was payment terms and do they give a deposit, she said " Net 60 and only a deposit if we were manufacturing".  I knew they were on my Shady list, and verified it with others here...."

     


  • ICON IDENTITY SOLUTIONS, INC

     

    "....I hear ya!  We've been at this for 40 years and yet I still find myself giving these nationals the benefit of the doubt, only to have it bite my in the arse.  And another problem I am encountering lately is the last minute installs.  Being given ONE day to install a complete site (pylons, readers, building letters, DT, etc.  WTH?  And then 90 days later STILL waiting on payment.  Not any more....."


  • COAST SIGN INC

     

    "....Has anyone had fairly recent dealings with them?  We are working with a JCPenny at a local mall for them.  First trip we go out there and "parts are onsite"... this was a joke as the Neon wasn't even made for that letter and the transformer was not correct.  We have given a quote for...."

     

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  • Cranes, Buckets, & Trucks


    General Sign Truck Discussion

    A Forum Filled with topics such as Member Truck Modifications, adding Ladder Racks, Welders, Jibs.  General Maintenance for Controllers, Cables, Tubing & Lubing, Outriggers, Engines. 

    Make & Model Reviews,  what to look for, what to stay away from.

    Certification News & Regulations.

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  • By alukard123
    Hi Guys   So I placed an order for a brand new truck with BOOMCO EQUIPMENT in 2021, the owner goes by FAITH LAMB or FAITH RODRIGUEZ, and after making a 19,250k Deposit, Elliott delayed truck delivery 3 times and more than 6 Months after the date they originally promised and not only that, but they also raised the price another 13k due to material increases and other delays, so I had enough with ELLIOTT and decided to go to ALTEC Instead, took a brand new chassis that was delivered to E
  • By Brian
    Hey guys thinking of adding a in basket jib. How many of you guys have them and how useful do you feel they are? Pics of yours would be to see
  • By Erik Sine
    As a request I'm starting a poll to help those who may be looking for reviews on Sign Trucks for their next purchase.    Also included in this topic will be reviews and purchase history content by those who have purchased, sold, and operate or operated the following Manufactured Sign Trucks     CRANES: Elliott Altec Manitex Wilkie Radocy Skyhoist Skyhook Icrane     BUCKETS / LIFTS: RH Ladder Vanladder
  • By Welder-turned-signs
    Has anybody bought, used, or heard good/bad on a company called Socage? Their website is here; http://www.socage.it/ I am in the market for a 80' plus working height bucket truck and ran across one of theirs for sale for less than $200k brand new. Wondering what's up with their product. Here is one of their trucks on ebay; https://www.ebay.com/itm/Socage-94FT-Arial-Truck-Bucket-Truck-Sign-Truck-Ford-F750-Diesel-BRAND-NEW/263481676040?hash=item3d58bb5108:g:ymMAAOSwlAZab4DX&vxp=mtr
  • By Baldwin Signs
    We have an older Sky Hoist and it's developed a problem recently.    When we extend or retract the tubes hop and results in slack in the cables then they will retract until the cables are tight again. Tubes aren’t bent and they are greased. We can’t tighten up the extend/retract cables. We are looking for a place to source parts or suggestions.   Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks,    Ron Gileck
  • By Rocco
    When I bought my ATR-41 it didn't have the jib but I bought one and it's on the truck.  I'm having my hydraulic guy come later this week to make the connections.   And no, I don't want to do it myself.  I'd rather have someone who knows how do it properly.  I'm wondering if anyone else has done this and where is the best place to put the valve to operate the hoist.  I was considering making a bracket similar to the control box of a scissor lift.   That way we can hang it from the platform where
  • By Signworksinc
    When you need a third hand. 
  • By Signsfast
    I am planning on having my sx57 skyhoist rebuilt and installed on a new(er) chassis. I am having a hard time finding unbiased opinions on which class 7 chassis is good and reliable. I realize that DEF systems destroyed the trucking undustry reliability when it was first implemented but not sure what its like nowadays. I want a 33kgvw chassis with about 275hp.  I am interested in hearing from people on what brand/models to look at and avoid. thanks! Brands that I am looking at are  Frei
  • By spectrum maine
    just bought a decent low mile wilkie 520. anybody have one? how do you like it?  seems really simple, mechanically. erik @ spectrum signs
  • By redarmymember
    Curious to know what most are doing about it?
  • By D-Signs and Awnings Inc.
    D-Signs and Awnings Inc.  Is now offering L55 Elliott HiReach Crane Services contact us by email at ddls71@gmail.com or 610-841-2188 located in Allentown PA
  • By Guest Shimmy
    Hi,   What brand and model generator/welder would you recommend to mount onto an elliott?   Would it be a a bobcat 225, 250 or any other recommendations?   Thanks!
  • 24V - Sign Cabinet LED Modules


    Double Sided Cabinet Light Spacing For LEDs

    Most Light Source Suppliers and Manufacturers won't show you examples let alone "numbers" of light readings on Sign Cabinet or Sign Projects from light source components they push like these I'm posting here, but....This is The Sign Syndicate!

    "Seeing is believing" as they say.

    So, one of the components I've been big on because of feedback and demand is a strong enough LED module that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, isn't proprietary where you need to buy their special clips, brackets, etc, and actually put out enough light without exaggerated "Usable Light" under too far spread spacing that's supposed to save you money that won't compete with other existing signs in the area of your project. 

    Biggest complaint from sign shops about cabinet LEDs....."I don't want to use a whole bunch of power supplies!"

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  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Sales Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  All our employees are long term and committed to fabricating and installing the best signs we can produce.  We take pride in our work! The Sign Sales representative will be responsible for A) Communicating with the customer to find their needs/wants and budget B) Communicat
  • By HansonSigns
    Sign Journeyman Electrician / Serviceman Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  The Sign Electrician will be responsible for ensuring that sign installations and service are executed to code and meet company standards. Specific responsibilities include: Troubleshoot sign issues and determine repair requirements.  Install various
  • By jack
    Accent Graphics is looking for a sales rep to take over some existing accounts as well as cultivate new business.  This is a great opportunity for the right individual.   We’ve been in business over 40 yrs, are profitable and debt free, offer a competitive benefits package and have a strong staff. Please visit our website at accentgraphicsinc.com and send your resume to operations@accentgraphicsinc.com  
  • By Wilyouplz
    Sign Connection is a full-service architectural sign company based in Gastonia, NC. From planning to fabrication to installation, Sign Connection specializes in creating signage that portrays a professional image for businesses.   Signcon.com   Role Description This is a full time on-site role for a Lead Installer at Sign Connection in Gastonia, NC. The Lead Installer will be responsible for overseeing the installation of signage, coordinat
  • By John Bloodworth
    We have immediate openings for a service tech / installer with experience. Excellent work environment, well maintained equipment, premium pay for premium people. Our trucks cover Middle and North Georgia - crews have very minimal out of town/ overnight jobs. No crane certification or CDL needed. Paid holidays / vacation / bonuses and other compensation. www.bloodworthsign.com / bloodworthsign@gmail.com
  • By Chad P
    Gulf Coast Signs and Graphics is a fast growing sign company. We are looking for an Experienced Sign Service Technician. We are a full service sign company that provides our customers with all of their sign needs from permitting to final installation and service. Our Technician will work closely with our Service Department Manager. Our ideal candidate is a self starter with a high level of quality work. Our next Service Technician should be able to work well with others and possess excellent lis
  • By Donna Swanson
    Signmakers and Installers Needed DOUG BEAN SIGNS, INC. Hello! Southeast Georgia's best, busiest, and most highly-regarded custom sign design and manufacturing firm has immediate openings for top-notch signmakers, installers, and/or folks who want to become one. Skill-sets likely to qualify you to be a great sign maker: (our #1 preference:) already be a great signmaker lol ….and/or.. finish carpenter/woodworker/cabinet maker /welder/metal fabricator/automotive painter/electrician/ h
  • By jfields1113
    Job description Job Overview We are seeking skilled installers, service technicians and apprentices to join our team. Allied Signs Incorporated is a full-service sign company that specializes in serving and installing corporate signage for national sign manufacturing companies. We also manufacture and install signs for local clients. We are offer premium hourly rate and benefits. Immediately available positions:  
  • By anthonyk
    Now Hiring - Florida   * Sign Installer / Crane Operator - Must have CDL A or B and experience installing pylon signs, channel letters, digital signs, etc.   * Hydrovac Operator - Must have CDL A. Operate hydrovac for excavating small foundations for digital menu boards. Electrical and low voltage experience is also a plus   * Service Tech - Must have experience performing service and repair of all types of signs and lighting. Also includes perform
  • By B.O.P.
    WAS $850.00 + SH&I - NOW $825.00 This is a new component manifold based on our popular SVP-12 Pyrex High Vacuum Manifold. Includes everything listed below (picture attached): ● SVP-12 manifold body with 0-12mm main stopcock ● Our new compact U-gauge manometer (1.5” wide) ● 2 ea, Level 1 Gas Delivery System* ● Polycarbonate manifold supports & hardware ● 2 ea, 18mm x 2ft. lead glass tubing * Gas canisters available at additional cost The manifold is not pre-mounted on a board as
  • By jack
    Accent Graphics is looking for a sales rep to cultivate new accounts.  This is a great opportunity for the right individual. We’ve been in business over 40 yrs, are profitable and debt free, offer a competitive benefits package, and have a strong staff. Please visit our website at accentgraphicsinc.com and send your resume to operations@accentgraphicsinc.com  
  • By TDI_Signs
    TDI Signs is a signage solutions provider located in Santa Fe Springs, CA. TDI specializes in designing, manufacturing, and installing high-quality signs for businesses and organizations. With a commitment to excellence and innovation, we are looking for a talented Project Manager to join our dynamic team.   Role Description We are seeking an experienced and detail-oriented Project Manager to oversee signage projects from conception to completion. The ideal candidate will be respo

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  • $68.00
    The 24V .8Watt BrightON II
    HIGH BRIGHTNESS CONSTANT CURRENT MODULES
     

     
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    For questions, place order by phone, please call us at (858) 880-1400 or email us at orders@thesignsyndicate.com
     
     

     
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    5 Year, 50K Lifetime 6500K 24V LED System High-End High Brightness LED Modules for Channel Letters and Sign Cabinets Constant Current Regulated LED Provides Stability Control Over Time For Longer Life, NOT Constant Voltage .8 Watts Per Module U.L. File E520387 FULLY Weatherproof IP67 175˙ High Efficiency Uniformity Optics 80 Modules per bag.  1.6 Module Per Foot Fully Stretched (50 Linear Feet) 123lm  
     
     
    LED Power Supplies
    Use with our France "True Power" Lighting Solutions LED Power Supplies
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  • $140.00
    The 24V 2.4Watt BrightON SunFire LED
    QTY 40 - HIGH BRIGHTNESS CONSTANT CURRENT MODULES
     
     

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    10 Year Product, 5 Year Labor 6500K 24V LED System High End High Brightness LED Product Constant Current Regulated LED Provides Stability Control Over Time For Longer Life, NOT Constant Voltage 2.4 Watts Per Module U.L. E520387 FULLY Weatherproof IP66 160˙ High Uniformity Optics 1 Module Per Foot  (12" OC, 40 Linear Feet) 165 lm/w  

     
     
     
     
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    40 Modules per bunch.  
     
    Spacing between modules and rows varies based on depth and sign face type.  Double sided Sign Cabinets 12" to 24" Depth, or Single Sided cabinets from 6" on.  
     
    The Module to Module Spacing is 1 per foot, and like HO Fluorescent Cabinets the row spacing is the same, 12" row to row  
     
     
    See Double Sided Sign Cabinet article
     
    Shallow cabinets are encouraged to use the BrightON IV
     
    15" Wire length between modules
     

     
     
     

     
     
     
     

     
     
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    FRANCE LIGHTING SOLUTIONS
    ATLAS "TRUE POWER" POWER SERIES
     
    No Power De-Rating Required
    Supports 100% rated load across the entire operating temperature range
     
    Overload LED Indicator Light
    Instantly alerts you of an overload or short and protects all components from failure
     
    High Electrical Efficiency
    Enables low energy costs and cool operation in a small package
     
    Maximum Water Resistance
    IP68 rating and wet-listed conduit fittings.  For use in wet, dry or damp applications.
     
    UL Listed Class 2 & P (Listed E468013)
    IP 68 (Wet, Damp, & Dry)
    Input Current  (Amps)  1.2/.6
    Input Power  120-277volt
    Output VDC  24volt
    Output Current (Amps)  4A
    Rated Output Power  96W
    Measurements  8.98" x 2.72" x 2.5"
    Weight  2.5lbs
     
     
  • $41.20
    6" Length LED Channel Letter Wall Pass Thru - 10 Pack
     
    Made in America
     
    Versatile feed through insulators that protect insulated LED Sign Wires for Channel Letters, Reverse Channel Letters in wall penetrations (per NEC 300.4), & other Sign bodies or enclosures
     
    • UL 879
    • Listed in the UL SAM Manual
    • Available in 2", 4", 6", & 8"
    • Requires a 9/16" hole
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    Matches up with 3M Poppy Red 3630-143 and Pantone 179 C
     
    PLASCO Trim Cap
     
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    U.L. Recognized & Listed in the UL SAM 151 Feet Per Roll Made In Germany Easier To Fabricate With For Smaller Letters 3/4" Plasco Has The Same Mechanical Clearance as 1" Jewelite Bonds Well To Polycarbonate with Channel Bond (Scroll Below)
     

     
     
     
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    PLASCO Trim Cap
     
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    U.L. Recognized & Listed in the UL SAM 151 Feet Per Roll Made In Germany Easier To Fabricate With For Smaller Letters 3/4" Plasco Has The Same Mechanical Clearance as 1" Jewelite Bonds Well To Polycarbonate with Channel Bond (Scroll Below)
     

     
     
     
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    BOX of 100

     

    Transco To Go, LLC offers a range of popular sized Electrodes used in the neon industry worldwide. The highest quality raw materials were chosen to offer neon manufacturers a quality product coupled with user friendly processing. The manufacturing process is closely monitored throughout and specific Q.C. procedures are incorporated to ensure consistent quality.

     

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    • Sign Sales Hanson Sign Company, located on the beautiful Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State, has been in business since 1964.  We are known for the great care we take with clients and employees alike.  All our employees are long term and committed to fabricating and installing the best signs we can produce.  We take pride in our work! The Sign Sales representative will be responsible for A) Communicating with the customer to find their needs/wants and budget B) Communicating with our permit staff to find out what signage the customer is allowed to have per code for the particular location C) Communicating with our designer to get sketches of the sign to the customer. Also, Sales Representative will be responsible for pricing out each job to present the customer with a proposal and sign sketch. Sales Rep will maintain contact with customer to build trust and a long term relationship.  A large percentage of our customers are repeat customers or referrals from existing customers.  Requirements:  At least 3 years of sign-related employment.  Job type:  Full time, some overtime.  Hours are 7:30am to 4:00pm Monday – Friday.  Salary:  $30 -  per hour, negotiable depending on experience.  Benefits:  100% paid medical, dental, vision plan.  Matching 401K, paid vacation and holidays.  Drug testing and employment physical may be required.  Please visit our website at www.hansonsigns.com and send your resume to info@hansonsigns.com.
    • It's been a minute since I've been active on the Sign Syndicate I must admit.   Real Life activities along with how busy I have been with developing our Brighton LED Line have taken me away from keeping this site active.  I wasn't expecting the Brighton LED line to really take off as it has.  It's required a lot of attention and I'm purposely trying to keep product circle on who sells it small.  Quality is where my focus lays and not Quantity.  I have no desire to be the next Principal LED where I get to a point where I'm just selling off a name and let the product quality drop.   Since the Principal LED gobble up of the Sloan, Hanley the whole quality in the market place has turned to absolute Dog Shit.....and that is what Shops have been buying...Dog Shit...and they don't even know it   Over the last few years it's been a race to the bottom.   Wensco, Spandex, Montroy is raging over Principal LED dropping them as a supplier so their rage is focused on their United LED by G2G to complete against Principal / Sloan.    Then we have Everylite Raging over G2G which is nothing more than old G2G Employee/Partners splitting off to do their own thing as Everylite bitter at their previous place of buisiness or employment.  So Battle Lines are all over the market place and they're all competing for one thing...who can sell the Cheapest Module.   We've discussed a lot of this in ad nauseam      Chip quality in LED Modules has gone down and price has gone up with the big monopoly along with having fewer choices at the Sign Supplier...All a mixed bag in conjunction in who can sell quantity over quality.     This will all get very interesting, real fast         So.....I have a need fever, and the only prescription is...... more Benchmark Testing.         The Great White Hope IV   Just like the predecessors of the GWH III to the original we started back in 2009 we will test the Original Light output of various Vendor LEDs with similar spacing, monitor the Lumen Maintenance (Light Degradation over time) in measuring the Luminance in Foot Candles...or the light output on a sign face....as that is all we care about in the Electric Sign Industry     Project Great White Hope      We will also display one of the most important qualities when it comes to LED Chip quality that must be given attention too, that many either not know of, or really is never talked about because it cuts through all the Marketing Bullshit and that is the Foot Candles per Watt....this is the Chip Efficiency of an LED and this number will reflect how much light output you are getting for power put it.  The higher the FC/W, the better quality chip that LED has in it.  You can't get High Light Output from poor quality chips, only high quality chip have a higher efficiency to give you more light for lesser power.   For obvious reasons I will not be benchmarking every product out there on the market, just the most visible in the Market Place.     Project Tight Whitey     For example I will not be testing Principal LED's Synergy Mini or any in the family.    A .46w LED module with poor lumen per watt is not worth investing our time to test especially at nearly $400 per bag in cost.  To me it's a joke of a product, something with such low output that will last you a long time because it operates/drives too low but you will literally need two to two and a half of these modules that one single LED module will do.  So having four .46w modules next to four Qwik Mod II modules would look ridiculous next to one another in a benchmark comparison.    Also, a lot of Modules are being phased out....   Our current line up will be the following   United LEDs (G2G).8w for Channel Letters   United LEDs (G2G) 1.2w for Large Channel Letters & Cabinets Principal Hanley's The One 1w LED Principal Qwik Mod II .8w Principal Qwik Mod II .8w Red Principal Sloans Prism .96w LED G2G Wow .8w Module Everylite Rebel 1w Module Everylite 2D .72w Module   BrightON II .8w LED Module BrightON II .8w LED Module Ruby Red BrightON III 1.2w LED Module BrightON IV 1.6w LED Module BrightON SunFire 2.4w LED Module BrightON Lightning .68w LED Module BrightON Lightning .72w LED Module Ruby Red   A few more surprise Vendor Modules as we go along.   There is no better way to show the Electric Sign Industry and where we sit with the components we use in the signs we produce than creating a benchmark comparison   I should have this up and running in the next day or two, I will create a new topic and post here publicly for all to see and monitor over the next few years.   Like the previous Benchmarks, all LED Modules will be equally spaced for 2LED Modules, 3LED Modules, and 4LED Module.    All LED Modules will be in 5" Depth Channels that are 24" x 4.25".  Sign Faces will be 1/8" 7328 White by Plexiglas grade C and all will operate by a shared France Lighting Solutions TruPower LED PSU.    The only fault this benchmark comparison will have is that the budget Constant Voltage LEDs like the Qwik Mod II will be handy capped in Light Output because there will not be any remote slight voltage drop coming from a TruPower LED PSU that will affect the light output drop that would occur in real life setting should a LED PSU be loaded at 80 - 85%.  Constant Current LED Modules light output is not affected by slight voltage drops and remain consistent in lighting.   So, if we have one fault it lays here, but just know...all Constant Voltage LED modules would normally be a little dimmer in light for two reasons, TruPower LED Power Supply and for the fact that our PSU's will not be reaching anywhere near loadable capacity, and if we were to add modules down the road after initial start, it would affect these CC LED Modules Light Output in robbing voltage.       Great White Hope Monthly Benchmark Evaluation        The Reason I'm rebooting this much needed Benchmark Comparison for the Electric Sign Industry is for a couple of reasons.  Our Trade Needs this because too many Custom Sign Shops only knowledge base it dependent on what Sign Suppliers tell them...which is way too reliant on a poor source based on the importance on sales and who they sell now and not yesterday.  I also notice with Social Media which is another poor source of reliable knowledge, has been very incorrect and very biased based on who they sell and who their relationships are built around.  This simple Benchmark will shed light where there has a lot of poor light on the subject matter   This time with our own developed LED line will be in the mix, and of course it will be seeing as biased....in a sense it will come off that way....  But I always have encouraged custom sign shops to develop their own comparisons and really, REALLY see for themselves....as Seeing is BELIEVING        More to come......
    • I am looking for Tecnolux 12mm and 15mm N717 Saffron Yellow, do anyone know where I can find these? 
    • It would be the cable appropriate to fit in the sheave size, measure what is on there currently. And 2.25 - 2.5 times longer than the fully extended boom length. You can probably find the least required number of wraps on the winch drum.
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